You know what they say-you should keep away from comparing your opponent to a Nazi-as it trivializes the Holocaust's victims. In this vein, a serial offender is Ben Carson who compares all kinds of things to slavery and the Holocaust that aren't remotely like it-like Obamacare, abortion, or gun control.
A dirty little secret is he gets away with that slavery jibe a little more because he himself is black.
However, what do you do about Trump's latest proposal that really seems to rise to that level? He actually said yesterday that he's for national IDs for Muslims yesterday. He didn't bring it up but when a reporter suggested it, he said you can't rule it out, that now, all kinds of things that seemed unthinkable a year ago can no longer be ruled out.
"Donald Trump "would certainly implement" a database system tracking Muslims in the United States, the Republican front-runner told NBC News on Thursday night."
"I would certainly implement that. Absolutely," Trump said in Newton, Iowa, in between campaign town halls.
"There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases," he added. "We should have a lot of systems."
When asked whether Muslims would be legally obligated to sign into the database, Trump responded, "They have to be — they have to be."
"Ibrahim Hooper, national spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, sounded incredulous when he was asked about Trump's comments, telling NBC News: "We're kind of at a loss for words."
"What else can you compare this to except to prewar Nazi Germany?" Hooper asked. "There's no other comparison, and [Trump] seems to think that's perfectly OK."
"Rabbi Jack Moline, executive director of the nonprofit Interfaith Alliance, drew the same comparison Thursday night."
"My father was in World War II, and he fought to preserve America against what the Nazis were doing," Moline told NBC News.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-says-he-would-certainly-implement-muslim-database-n466716
“Well you’re a Christian,” Bush started off saying to reporters. “You can prove you’re a Christian. It’s—”
“How?” a reporter asked.
Bush gave a shrug: “I think you can prove it — if you can’t prove it then, you know, you err on the side of caution.”
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/jeb-bushs-dumb-stump-answer-about
A dirty little secret is he gets away with that slavery jibe a little more because he himself is black.
However, what do you do about Trump's latest proposal that really seems to rise to that level? He actually said yesterday that he's for national IDs for Muslims yesterday. He didn't bring it up but when a reporter suggested it, he said you can't rule it out, that now, all kinds of things that seemed unthinkable a year ago can no longer be ruled out.
"Donald Trump "would certainly implement" a database system tracking Muslims in the United States, the Republican front-runner told NBC News on Thursday night."
"I would certainly implement that. Absolutely," Trump said in Newton, Iowa, in between campaign town halls.
"There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases," he added. "We should have a lot of systems."
When asked whether Muslims would be legally obligated to sign into the database, Trump responded, "They have to be — they have to be."
"Ibrahim Hooper, national spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, sounded incredulous when he was asked about Trump's comments, telling NBC News: "We're kind of at a loss for words."
"What else can you compare this to except to prewar Nazi Germany?" Hooper asked. "There's no other comparison, and [Trump] seems to think that's perfectly OK."
"Rabbi Jack Moline, executive director of the nonprofit Interfaith Alliance, drew the same comparison Thursday night."
"My father was in World War II, and he fought to preserve America against what the Nazis were doing," Moline told NBC News.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-says-he-would-certainly-implement-muslim-database-n466716
This tells you something about the country. Not just Trump. You had a bunch of Democrats-47-already agree to effectively end the Syrian refugee program-and we haven't even been attacked yet.
You have talk of internment camps for the refugees-again we haven't even been attacked yet.
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2015/11/17/tennessee-gop-leader-round-up-syrian-refugees-remove-state/75936660/
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2015/11/roanoke_mayor_on_refugees_and_japanese_internment_camps.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2015/11/roanoke_mayor_on_refugees_and_japanese_internment_camps.html
What if we were? What might happen then? If we really were at war? What measures might be argued to be necessary then?
Ideas that were unthinkable are being tought about. The Republican Presidential primary leader says we need an ID system for Muslims-and maybe much more as he says we need 'systems, lots and lots of systems.'
There isn't much yet that makes us think that we're different now than we were in WWII when we rounded up the Japanese and for that matter turned back the Jewish refugees from Nazi Germany and sent them back as they were feared to be Communists or anarchist agitators.
As for the GOP can we get past the idea of trying to point to the more reasonable ones? Jeb is reasonable allegedly.
If you follow what he says, he always gives with one hand, then takes with the other. He says no to a religious test and no to a ban on refugees but with the refugees he wants a religious test. He only wants us to take in Christian refugees. How do you figure out which are Christian?
"Jeb Bush on Tuesday dug in further on his position that the United States should prioritize bringing in Christians from among the refugees of the Syrian civil war — and he insisted that people can even prove that they’re Christians."“Well you’re a Christian,” Bush started off saying to reporters. “You can prove you’re a Christian. It’s—”
“How?” a reporter asked.
Bush gave a shrug: “I think you can prove it — if you can’t prove it then, you know, you err on the side of caution.”
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/jeb-bushs-dumb-stump-answer-about
As for Trump, I kind of agree with Chris Matthews' argument. Trump is about setting markers. It's not even whether or not he'd wanted an ID system but he can't ever let anyone get to his Right on fear of immigrants.
Ben Carson had a pretty good rep of hating Muslims but Trump-trumped-him here. The best Dr. Ben can do is compare them to dogs.
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