I think what she says kind of hits a nerve.
"A black grandmother posted a video online excoriating the #BlackLivesMatter movement that has gone massively viral in just a matter of days.Peggy Hubbard had a very strong emotional reaction to the case of St. Louis officers fatally shooting a black 18-year-old who reportedly had a handgun and the death of a 9-year-old in Ferguson who was killed in a drive-by shooting."
"It outraged Hubbard that activists protested for “the thug” and said, “Are you fucking kidding me? Police brutality? How about black brutality. You black people, my black people, you are the fucking most violent motherfuckers I have ever seen in my life.”
"Hubbard laid down the law and repeatedly said “fuck you” to the people spreading “bullshit” about police brutality."
"She said the “black lives matter” mantra should be applied equally to black-on-black crime and elaborated, “327 homicides later y’all want to holler police brutality? Black people, you’re a fucking joke. You’re tearing up communities over thugs and criminals.”
She added, “You shoot at them, they’re gonna shoot at you.”
http://www.mediaite.com/online/fcking-most-violent-motherfckers-womans-blacklivesmatter-rant-goes-viral/
"If anyone is surprised by Hubbard’s emergence, or that there are like-minded black people who are encouraging her, it is only because large swaths of the media cover the black community as if conservative voices like hers don’t even exist."
"In fact, she is the latest incarnation of a black conservatism that has been around more than a century. Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote a 2008 feature story on its last public champion, Bill Cosby, who roiled American discourse on race with what has come to be known as his “pound cake speech.” He declared, “Looking at the incarcerated, these are not political criminals ... People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake! And then we all run out and are outraged, ‘The cops shouldn't have shot him.’ What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?”
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/peggy-hubbards-attack-on-black-lives-matter/402128/
"A black grandmother posted a video online excoriating the #BlackLivesMatter movement that has gone massively viral in just a matter of days.Peggy Hubbard had a very strong emotional reaction to the case of St. Louis officers fatally shooting a black 18-year-old who reportedly had a handgun and the death of a 9-year-old in Ferguson who was killed in a drive-by shooting."
"It outraged Hubbard that activists protested for “the thug” and said, “Are you fucking kidding me? Police brutality? How about black brutality. You black people, my black people, you are the fucking most violent motherfuckers I have ever seen in my life.”
"Hubbard laid down the law and repeatedly said “fuck you” to the people spreading “bullshit” about police brutality."
"She said the “black lives matter” mantra should be applied equally to black-on-black crime and elaborated, “327 homicides later y’all want to holler police brutality? Black people, you’re a fucking joke. You’re tearing up communities over thugs and criminals.”
She added, “You shoot at them, they’re gonna shoot at you.”
http://www.mediaite.com/online/fcking-most-violent-motherfckers-womans-blacklivesmatter-rant-goes-viral/
I do agree with BLM in the large sense-there has been some very questionable cases of treatment of black men by the police.
However, it does seem to me that BLM is now sort of just taking the side of any black person anywhere regardless of the facts.If a black person has a problem with a white person it's on Youtube and there's all this screaming. If this person was engaged in a crime, even a violent crime they don't see that as mattering.
And everything is going viral now. Yesterday ThinkProgress had a post that complained about some incident where 10 black women were kicked off a train allegedly due to the complaint of a white woman.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/08/24/3694422/black-women-train-laughing/
Such stories suggest to me that maybe BLM is jumping the shark a little with stories like this. It's as if everything now has to become a cause celeb. I mean just because black women are kicked off a train at the complaint of a white woman we're all supposed to just start foaming at the mouth?
Maybe they really were being inconsiderate and disruptive. That happens. I can't say who was right but I feel like there's no context at all that it's just 'Well they're black and she's white so obviously there's racism.'
And Sandra Bland I maintain really instigated that confrontation with the policeman down in Texas.
People were acting as if it's her right to cruse a policemen up and down to his face.They're wrong and I don't buy that a white person would have gotten away with this either.
It's one thing to fight clear cases of police brutality but BLM now seems to be painting with a very broad brush now.
This doesn't mean that the movement isn't a net plus. I think it hopefully is. But I do think there are some excesses.
The Atlantic speaks of Peggy Hubbard as a 'black conservative.'
"She pledged to refrain from profane language going forward––and said she has no intention of shutting up. “Given all the comments I received, black and white, saying, ‘Don’t stop, we need your voice,’ I’m going to keep going,” she said. “This is not a race issue. It never has been a racial issue ... This is about accountability and responsibility ... Last night we had another homicide … and we’re saying black lives matter. Black lives matter, white lives matter, Asian lives matter, Hispanic lives matter, Lithuanian lives matter, Russian lives matter, life in general matters … but it’s never gonna get better until we admit that we have a problem in our community.”"If anyone is surprised by Hubbard’s emergence, or that there are like-minded black people who are encouraging her, it is only because large swaths of the media cover the black community as if conservative voices like hers don’t even exist."
"In fact, she is the latest incarnation of a black conservatism that has been around more than a century. Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote a 2008 feature story on its last public champion, Bill Cosby, who roiled American discourse on race with what has come to be known as his “pound cake speech.” He declared, “Looking at the incarcerated, these are not political criminals ... People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake! And then we all run out and are outraged, ‘The cops shouldn't have shot him.’ What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?”
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/peggy-hubbards-attack-on-black-lives-matter/402128/
Obviously, comparing her to Bill Cosby is a way of discrediting her. I certainly don't consider myself a conservative -and hopefully if you've read me at all you know this-but I think there's truth in what she said.
Cosby is a serial-rapist but it's true: if you are stealing a pound cake you are putting your body and safety on the line and rightfully so.
I agree that if they can the police should stop him without shooting. But what is the BLM answer? Just let him have the pound cake seems to be seen as ok.
Overall, I agree with BLM's larger critique but I do also think there's a kernel of truth in what Peggy Hubbard says.
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