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Wednesday, August 19, 2015

Are You Listening Lawrence O'Donnell?

I single him out as he alone among the media seems absolutely determined to call the ceiling for Trump. Just how bad it is was shown last night. I touched on this earlier.

http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-only-ones-bogged-down-with.html

Yesterday a new CNN poll showed not just that Trump continues to lead the GOP field but that he leads on literally every possible issue. He even has 60/% support of Republican women which actually does make some sense to me.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/18/politics/donald-trump-presidential-poll-debate/

http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-sad-thing-is-trump-still-sounds.html

So Trump led in every single poll except that least one. On electability 58 percent say he's not electable while 38% do. Right away Lawrence seizes on this to triumphantly declare 'So this means that he's at his ceiling. After all, they may like him but they don't think he's electable.'

What is wrong with Lawrence? I mean seriously. I used to love this guy but have had no use for his election analysis at all. First of all he's been totally in the tank for Bernie Sanders but then that's all of MSNBC; at this point why not just rename it Bernie Sanders TV and be done with it?

But his determination to stick to the talking points of the Very Serious Media on Trump which has een wrong every step of the way is mystifying.

Why isn't he enjoying the trolling like any sane liberal or moderate is?

Why be offended by Trump? I mean he's just exposing the GOP for what it is-you have to be grateful for this as the former Reagnite Bruce Bartlett gets.

"Why I love Donald Trump--he's destroying the wanker party from within"

https://twitter.com/BruceBartlett

Is Trump also trolling Lawrence? I like to think liberals are too smart for that and get the gag.

As for electability, 38% is a pretty high number. Lawrence keeps repeating that Trump has topped out at 25%, but how does he figure this as 38% think he's electable? That shows he has considerable more room to grow.
Lawrence since when has it been liberals' job to make sure the GOP chooses the most electable candidate? Yes I agree history suggests they eventually go Jeb but there are always exceptions.

I don't think Trump will win ultimately but I do think he can last a long time and if he could win the nomination I'd be ecstatic.
I don't get it as other than O'Donnell, the only ones who seem to have a problem with Trump is the GOP establishment. I don't blame them for tearing their hair out.

Meanwhile the GOP base doesn't seem interested in Jeb:

Jeb Bush planned to win the Republican primary with a shock-and-awe strategy. Instead, it's been a shocking fall for the onetime GOP frontrunner.

He started the campaign with the most famous name in Republican politics, a $100 million-plus stake, and clear, if underwhelming, favorite status in early polling. But Bush has fallen fastest and farthest against the backdrop of Donald Trump's rise.

"As Vox's Ezra Klein pointed out Monday morning, Trump's success is rooted in his ability to tell grassroots Republican voters exactly what they want to hear, particularly on immigration. Bush prides himself on telling them what he thinks they need to hear, especially when they disagree with him. Rather than winning credit for sticking to his guns, he has alienated large portions of the Republican electorate."

"The broader context here is that fundamental assumptions about the strength of Bush's candidacy must be reassessed."

http://www.vox.com/2015/8/19/9175741/jeb-bush-shock-fall-trump

I've heard some very strange analysis from O'Donnell. He dismisses Trump's 25 percent by pointing out that Rick Perry, Newt, and Herman Cain had in the 30s or even the high 30s at one point in 2012.

Yes, but:

1 The base's flirtation with each of them was much shorter than Trump's who has led almost the entire Summer. Trump's longevity is shocking. 
2. But Romney was a much stronger candidate than Jeb. For most of 2012 the two leading candidates were Mitt and one of the other three. Mitt was always at or near the top. 
I understand the narrative that Jeb will eventually rise as Mitt and his brother in 2000 did but then you remember that both other candidates were stronger than Jeb at this point. It's shocking how mediocre his numbers are. 
Its also a mistake to focus so much on just when Trump tops out. He has really changed the dynamics in the GOP now in ways that won't just snap back to normal once he's gone. As the WSJ notes Romney's self-deportation scheme sounds like Mother Theresa compared with the new Trumpist line of 2016. 
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-wall-st-journals-war-with.html
So my advice is for Lawrence to stop kvetching and calling the top to Trump and just sit back, relax, and pass the popcorn and sip a soda. That's what any intelligent liberal is doing now. 





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