Saturday, August 13, 2016

On Iraq War Trump Plays the Politics of Yes, No, or Maybe So

He is literally taking every position on the issue simultaneously.

If you believe Donald Trump-and why would you ever do that without independent notarized proof?-his position on the Iraq War is this:

1. The Iraq War was a disastrous mistake.

2. Yet Obama ending the Iraq War was also a disastrous mistake

3. Obama-and Hillary as his SOS-are responsible for the rise of ISIS because he left Iraq.

A lot of issues. I agree with 1. Disagree with 2. But on 3, the rise of ISIS is complex without a single cause-no doubt the Iraq War was a huge mistake and big part of the cause.

Still, while it was a mistake to ever go to Iraq-fed by Bush Administration lies-once we got there, Donald Rumsfeld's radical, overnight de-baathification strategy was a huge roiling disaster that very directly opened a path to the rise of ISIS by suddenly dispossessing the dominant Sunni minority overnight.

While Sunni domination was unfair, it should never have been reversed in such an abrupt way. And by taking out the Baath party, it destroyed the Iraqi army who could have done a much better job at dealing with the post Saddam chaos.

But in any case, Trump was not against the Iraq War when it mattered-in 2002. For my part, I-like Barney Frank-were opposed in 2002.

"This claim is false, but Trump pulls it out with such frequency in campaign speeches, debates and interviews that it often goes unchallenged."

"The real estate mogul did not publicly oppose the war until at least 2004, a year after it began. No fact-checkers have found evidence of Trump publicly stating his opposition to the war before that year."

BuzzFeed’s Andrew Kaczynski, who regularly tracks how much Trump lies about his opposition to the war, found a 2002 interview in which Trump was asked if he supported the U.S. invading Iraq.

“Yeah, I guess so,” he said.

"Later on, Trump did begin to express concerns about the war, but often with regard to its effects on business and the economy."

"It wasn’t until April 2004, more than a year later, that Trump first argued the war was “a terrible mistake.” He again criticized the war in an August 2004 interview with Esquire magazine.

“What was the purpose of this whole thing? Hundreds and hundreds of young people killed. And what about the people coming back with no arms and legs? Not to mention the other side. All those Iraqi kids who’ve been blown to pieces,” he said. “And it turns out that all of the reasons for the war were blatantly wrong. All this for nothing!”

"Let’s be very clear: Trump did not oppose the war when it began in 2003. And yet, falsely claiming that he was an early opponent of the war and able to predict its failure has become an integral part of his pitch to voters."

But he takes this false claim and makes nonsense of it by also saying that Obama was wrong to end the war in 2011. 
Now Trump calls Obama the founder of ISIS but insists that he's being sarcastic 'but honestly, not that sarcastic.'
In other news, Obama takes out-the real ISIS leader. Trump's response is: yep, silence.

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