Monday, July 25, 2016

Wikileaks's Edrogan Email Dump

Good point by Lawrence O'Donnell. The DNC emails weren't leaked, they were stolen.

Difference between "leaked" & "stolen" isn't semantic. When is last time a bank robbery was reported as the bank leaked money?"

He also tells the truth: that the point of contention in those emails is a nothingburger. They show that the process was not rigged but the opposite.

Everyone understands there's never been D or R party chair who didn't have a favorite candidate in presidential primaries, right? Never."

This is what happens in a show trial environment: any sense of proportion goes out the window. 

Meanwhile, there is that time Wikileaks claimed to be dumping Erdogan's emails. Interesting discussion between Zeynep Tufecki and Eric Snowden.

"Hey, @snowden. You were SO wrong. Wikileaks doxed millions of women in Turkey. Read this: …

.@Snowden There was ZERO public interest in the dump; the files were not "Erdogan emails", instead doxed tens of millions of regular people.

For more:

"Just days after a bloody coup attempt shook Turkey, Wikileaks dumped some 300,000 emails they chose to call “Erdogan emails.” In response, Turkey’s internet governance body swiftly blocked access to Wikileaks.

"For many, blocking Wikileaks was confirmation that the emails were damaging to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the government, revealing corruption or other wrongdoing. There was a stream of articles about “censorship.” Even U.S. National Security Agency whistle-blower Edward Snowden tweeted the news of the Wikileaks block with the comment: “How to authenticate a leak.”

"But Snowden couldn’t have been more wrong about an act that was irresponsible, of no public interest and of potential danger to millions of ordinary, innocent people, especially millions of women in Turkey."

"And yet Western media reports, ranging from Reuters to Wired, some from journalists I know and respect, made the same assumptions Snowden did. They merely reported the block as an act of censorship and reported Wikileaks’ allegations of what the emails may contain, without apparently any cursory check."

"Journalists and anti-censorship activists who I am in touch with in Turkey have been combing through the leaked documents, and I am not aware of anything “newsworthy” being uncovered. According to the collective searching capacity of long-term activists and journalists in Turkey, none of the “Erdogan emails” appear to be emails actually from Erdogan or his inner circle. Nobody seems to be able to find a smoking gun exposing people in positions of power and responsibility. This doesn’t rule out something eventually emerging, but there have been several days of extensive searching."

"However, this dump does include massive databases containing sensitive and private information of millions of ordinary people, including a special database of almost all adult women in Turkey."

"Yes — this “leak” actually contains spreadsheets of private, sensitive information of what appears to be every female voter in 79 out of 81 provinces in Turkey, including their home addresses and other private information, sometimes including their cellphone numbers. If these women are members of Erdogan’s ruling Justice and Development Party (known as the AKP), the dumped files also contain their Turkish citizenship ID, which increases the risk to them as the ID is used in practicing a range of basic rights and accessing services. I’ve gone through the files myself. The Istanbul file alone contains more than a million women’s private information, and there are 79 files, with most including information of many hundreds of thousands of women."

"That’s right."

"We are talking about millions of women whose private, personal information has been dumped into the world, with nary an outcry. Their addresses are out there for every stalker, ex-partner, disapproving relative or random crazy to peruse as they wish. And let’s remember that, every year in Turkey, hundreds of women are murdered, most often by current or ex-husbands or boyfriends, and thousands of women leave their homes or go into hiding, seeking safety."

In other news:

"Suspected Russian hack of DNC widens—includes personal email of staffer researching Manafort."

Wisdom of Snark:

"There were reports of his vile cultists calling Chelsea a whore as she walking into her hotel. These people are sick."

Now they are literally doing the Rush Limbaugh move of targeting Chelsea Clinton.

As Chris Cillizza says, Bernie let it Pandora out of her box and now he's even getting booed.


  1. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out that some of these Bernie dead-ender trouble makers are tools being manipulated by paid Putin or GRU surrogates.

    1. I mean Putin pals right there in the crowd. My evidence? Absolutely none, except that Erick Erickson made an oblique reference to it. So yes, that's probably some conspiritardery on my part.

  2. Why doesn't MSNBC go interview a few ***HILLARY SUPPORTERS***.... Sheez! I'm sick of hearing about and from Bernie supporter and whether or not they're be accommodated sufficiently, how they're feeling today, and whether they can ever forgive Hillary for getting millions more votes than Bernie.

  3. I'm also fucking sick of MSNBC cutting away to show us an empty stage where Cheeto Jesus is expected to appear shortly! OMG... will Cheeto bless us with his presence again? Praise be acolytes! Get your basketball out and rub it and apply unctuous oils and rub it!

  4. Mike, do you suppose any Hillary supporters exist in this world? Do you suppose any will be attending the convention this week? You'd never know it from the media coverage. Where to you suppose they're hiding? Perhaps in the middle of the convention floor in plain sight??? Did any of them think to look there?

    I can't FUCKING believe it... it's just one bow and scrap after the next to these Bernie bros.

    Can you possibly find it in your poor victimized hearts to maybe, just maybe not boo Hillary too loudly?

    Is there anything, anything at all that Hillary can do to get you not to vote for Donald Trump instead? I know her evil is unbelievable, but is there any possible way you can forgive her, and maybe at least vote for Johnson or Stein instead of dishing out her much deserved punishment and vote for Trump?

    Oh look! Here's another Bernie supporter! ... who would have guessed he'd be here right in the middle of the Vermont delegation. Sir, what are your top 10 complaints about the evil savagery of Hillary Clinton?

  5. It looks like the Democrats have turned into the anti-TPP party. WTF is up with that???

    1. I feel like getting on a plane to Philly right now with about 1000 pro-TPP signs just to break up the monotony a bit.

  6. Amen! I'd go with you for that