On Morning Joe, Milo as usual doesn't get it. She predictably engaging in more Hillary bashing. She doesn't see why Bernie should stop attacking Hillary in vicious scorched earth terms.
Well, sure, it has worked great for him so far. In fact a lot of folks who previously were well disposed towards him, have gone off of him. Josh Marshall for one. I've noticed some comments in Huffington Post that express that sentiment now too. One Huff Po commentator from California said he is still considering voting for Bernie but if he keeps being so negative towards Hillary Clinton he's definitely voting for her.
As Howard Finneman has suggested, in NY he went in many people's minds from being your kindly uncle to a nasty guy.
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/04/in-ny-bernie-went-from-your-nice-uncle.html
Now Robert Reich is urging the Bernie supporters to stop being so negative about Hillary.
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/robert-reich-tells-bernie-sanders-fans-to-tone-down-the-negativity-toward-hillary-clinton/24547/
Here is the thing that Milo isn't considering. In 2008, once Hillary realized that Obama was going to be the nominee, she cut back on her attacks of him. Many of her supporters were not ready to bury the hatchet. Remember PUMA? That was Party Unity My Ass.
They were insisting they would never vote for Obama. Hillary right away told her team to stop the attacks.
For the record, while I was a huge Hillary Clinton supporter in 2008, and was very disappointed by her loss, I was never PUMA. Once it was clear Obama was the guy, I got in line. Because as much as I love Hillary, what was more important for me than even her victory was the victory of the Democratic party.
With Bernie there is not this loyalty to the party. Anthony Weiner on Wednesday talked about how Bernie would insist to him in Congress that he was not a Democrat that 'You guys are terrible. You don't know what you're doing' , etc.
I think if he refuses to pull back and support Hillary he's going to undercut his own future standing as well within the party.
There is certainly no reason for Hillary and the party to do much for him at the convention and in the platform if he will not do anything for party unity.
Reality check: you don't get everything you wanted all along when you lose.
Tad Devine has hinted that after next Tuesday''s five states they may reassess. It doesn't look like Bernie will do too well Tuesday either. He has an outside shot in Rhode Island-which is worth 24 delegates. But he looks likely to loose the other four by at least 10 points.
Josh Marshall has argued that the difference between Devine-who is more reasonable-and Jeff Weaver-who is a little less so-is different incentives.
Weaver is about Bernie, full stop. If Bernie loses he goes back to his comic book shop. This is not snark, he owns a comic book shop.
But Tad Devine is a long time Democratic party insider. He was a pioneer of the very super delegate system that there has been so much breastbeating about by the Bernie team.
He was for the insider candidate in 1984, which might show why he thought SDs were a good idea then. He probably wants to manage another campaign going forward.
So we'll see what the Bernie team has to say after Tuesday.
Well, sure, it has worked great for him so far. In fact a lot of folks who previously were well disposed towards him, have gone off of him. Josh Marshall for one. I've noticed some comments in Huffington Post that express that sentiment now too. One Huff Po commentator from California said he is still considering voting for Bernie but if he keeps being so negative towards Hillary Clinton he's definitely voting for her.
As Howard Finneman has suggested, in NY he went in many people's minds from being your kindly uncle to a nasty guy.
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/04/in-ny-bernie-went-from-your-nice-uncle.html
Now Robert Reich is urging the Bernie supporters to stop being so negative about Hillary.
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/robert-reich-tells-bernie-sanders-fans-to-tone-down-the-negativity-toward-hillary-clinton/24547/
Here is the thing that Milo isn't considering. In 2008, once Hillary realized that Obama was going to be the nominee, she cut back on her attacks of him. Many of her supporters were not ready to bury the hatchet. Remember PUMA? That was Party Unity My Ass.
They were insisting they would never vote for Obama. Hillary right away told her team to stop the attacks.
For the record, while I was a huge Hillary Clinton supporter in 2008, and was very disappointed by her loss, I was never PUMA. Once it was clear Obama was the guy, I got in line. Because as much as I love Hillary, what was more important for me than even her victory was the victory of the Democratic party.
With Bernie there is not this loyalty to the party. Anthony Weiner on Wednesday talked about how Bernie would insist to him in Congress that he was not a Democrat that 'You guys are terrible. You don't know what you're doing' , etc.
I think if he refuses to pull back and support Hillary he's going to undercut his own future standing as well within the party.
There is certainly no reason for Hillary and the party to do much for him at the convention and in the platform if he will not do anything for party unity.
Reality check: you don't get everything you wanted all along when you lose.
Tad Devine has hinted that after next Tuesday''s five states they may reassess. It doesn't look like Bernie will do too well Tuesday either. He has an outside shot in Rhode Island-which is worth 24 delegates. But he looks likely to loose the other four by at least 10 points.
Josh Marshall has argued that the difference between Devine-who is more reasonable-and Jeff Weaver-who is a little less so-is different incentives.
Weaver is about Bernie, full stop. If Bernie loses he goes back to his comic book shop. This is not snark, he owns a comic book shop.
But Tad Devine is a long time Democratic party insider. He was a pioneer of the very super delegate system that there has been so much breastbeating about by the Bernie team.
He was for the insider candidate in 1984, which might show why he thought SDs were a good idea then. He probably wants to manage another campaign going forward.
So we'll see what the Bernie team has to say after Tuesday.
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