Vox has an interesting point about Hillary's style.
"Dating as a feminist can be tough. Do you think that men and women should split the bill on a date?"
"Look, I think splitting the cost on a date has to be evaluated on a kind of case-by-case basis. You know, many years ago I remember doing that, and I know a lot of young people who even today do because they kind of consider more casual dates, group dates, to be ones where everybody pays their fair share, but I think you also have to be alert to the feelings of the person that you are dating. If it's important to that person to either split in the beginning of the relationship, or for one or the other of you to pay for whatever combination of reasons, you know, you just have to evaluate that and take it into account. So I don't think there is a hard and fast rule, at least that I have ever seen followed in every instance. "
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/14/11431150/hillary-clinton-check-splitting
Vox argues that her answer to who should pay for dates is analogous with her overall approach to policy.
"This maps well onto her approach to policy during the 2016 race. Bernie Sanders believes strongly in universalism. His answer to what to do about health care is to give everybody health care for free. His answer to what to do about college is to give everybody college for free. No tax credits, no means testing, just universal provision of services to solve the problem in question."
"So Clinton opts not to endorse a flawed universal rule and instead opts for maximum flexibility. No hard-and-fast rule, just stay attuned to your partner's feelings."
"The downside of this approach is that universalism has its merits. As my colleague Matt Yglesias notes, stuff like "free college" and "free health care" are readily understandable to people. Everyone buys in, and everyone benefits.
"That doesn't just make them better campaign proposals that are easier to drum up support for, it makes them better policies — people feel more comfortable accessing them, feel more confident in what the policies are doing, etc."
I don't know that it's a better policy. For example his free college plan is actually far from being free college.
A lot of time Bernie wants to boil everything down to a binary yes or no where the truth is more nuanced than that.
On the issue of $15, Politico falls for the simplistic answer:
"Hillary Clinton took offense when Bernie Sanders suggested that her support for a $15 minimum wage would come as a surprise to a lot of people. "I have said from the very beginning that I supported the fight for 15," Clinton said. But Sanders has a point: Clinton started the campaign supporting a $12 national minimum wage, and according to her website, still does—although she has tweeted support for the "Fight for 15" movement, and wants higher wages in cities like New York and Los Angeles."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/sanders-wins-the-fight-for-15-squabble-000103#ixzz45tqTHyKN
"This is absurd hair splitting. If she supports it in California and NY, how is she against it? Terrell J. Star wrongly claimed Hillary was flip flopping too:
"Yeah, HRC is not being clear about supporting $15 per hour. Bernie is drilling her (correctly) on her flip flop. #DemDebate"
https://twitter.com/Russian_Starr/status/720787235734310912
However, his followers corrected him:
"CORRECTION: Some of you corrected me by saying HRC is for $15, but in incremental steps in different states, which is correct. My apologies."
"Thank you. If anyone has any doubt here is what Fight for $15 says:
"Clinton has consistently supported the Fight for $15," #FightFor15 spox says in email. Adds they're grateful for both candidates' support."
https://twitter.com/darrensands/status/720819692764602368
Uh, er, well...
What she did say was key last night and is the difference between Bernie's universalist platitudes and her focus on the mechanics: it's easier to identify a problem than to solve it.
When she was asked if she would sign a $15 MW from a Democratic Congress her answer was 'From a Democratic Congress? Of course.'
The bottomline.
1. A GOP Congress will not support raising the current $7.25 MW to $12 or $15 making a Holy War over the two numbers kind of academic.
2. Just the same, Democratic cities and states like her buddy Andrew Cuomo in my home state of NY are raising it to $15. Hillary has been in total support of this.
3. So her point is about how you get a big rise in the MW done. Your strategy is different when dealing with a GOP Congress than a Dem Congress.
"Dating as a feminist can be tough. Do you think that men and women should split the bill on a date?"
"Look, I think splitting the cost on a date has to be evaluated on a kind of case-by-case basis. You know, many years ago I remember doing that, and I know a lot of young people who even today do because they kind of consider more casual dates, group dates, to be ones where everybody pays their fair share, but I think you also have to be alert to the feelings of the person that you are dating. If it's important to that person to either split in the beginning of the relationship, or for one or the other of you to pay for whatever combination of reasons, you know, you just have to evaluate that and take it into account. So I don't think there is a hard and fast rule, at least that I have ever seen followed in every instance. "
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/14/11431150/hillary-clinton-check-splitting
Vox argues that her answer to who should pay for dates is analogous with her overall approach to policy.
"This maps well onto her approach to policy during the 2016 race. Bernie Sanders believes strongly in universalism. His answer to what to do about health care is to give everybody health care for free. His answer to what to do about college is to give everybody college for free. No tax credits, no means testing, just universal provision of services to solve the problem in question."
"So Clinton opts not to endorse a flawed universal rule and instead opts for maximum flexibility. No hard-and-fast rule, just stay attuned to your partner's feelings."
"The downside of this approach is that universalism has its merits. As my colleague Matt Yglesias notes, stuff like "free college" and "free health care" are readily understandable to people. Everyone buys in, and everyone benefits.
"That doesn't just make them better campaign proposals that are easier to drum up support for, it makes them better policies — people feel more comfortable accessing them, feel more confident in what the policies are doing, etc."
I don't know that it's a better policy. For example his free college plan is actually far from being free college.
A lot of time Bernie wants to boil everything down to a binary yes or no where the truth is more nuanced than that.
On the issue of $15, Politico falls for the simplistic answer:
"Hillary Clinton took offense when Bernie Sanders suggested that her support for a $15 minimum wage would come as a surprise to a lot of people. "I have said from the very beginning that I supported the fight for 15," Clinton said. But Sanders has a point: Clinton started the campaign supporting a $12 national minimum wage, and according to her website, still does—although she has tweeted support for the "Fight for 15" movement, and wants higher wages in cities like New York and Los Angeles."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/sanders-wins-the-fight-for-15-squabble-000103#ixzz45tqTHyKN
"This is absurd hair splitting. If she supports it in California and NY, how is she against it? Terrell J. Star wrongly claimed Hillary was flip flopping too:
"Yeah, HRC is not being clear about supporting $15 per hour. Bernie is drilling her (correctly) on her flip flop. #DemDebate"
https://twitter.com/Russian_Starr/status/720787235734310912
However, his followers corrected him:
"CORRECTION: Some of you corrected me by saying HRC is for $15, but in incremental steps in different states, which is correct. My apologies."
"Thank you. If anyone has any doubt here is what Fight for $15 says:
"Clinton has consistently supported the Fight for $15," #FightFor15 spox says in email. Adds they're grateful for both candidates' support."
https://twitter.com/darrensands/status/720819692764602368
Uh, er, well...
What she did say was key last night and is the difference between Bernie's universalist platitudes and her focus on the mechanics: it's easier to identify a problem than to solve it.
When she was asked if she would sign a $15 MW from a Democratic Congress her answer was 'From a Democratic Congress? Of course.'
The bottomline.
1. A GOP Congress will not support raising the current $7.25 MW to $12 or $15 making a Holy War over the two numbers kind of academic.
2. Just the same, Democratic cities and states like her buddy Andrew Cuomo in my home state of NY are raising it to $15. Hillary has been in total support of this.
3. So her point is about how you get a big rise in the MW done. Your strategy is different when dealing with a GOP Congress than a Dem Congress.
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