For some weird reason Brian Beutler is trying to defend Jeb and says liberals aren't being fair to him but darned if I get how exactly.
"Let’s stipulate that Jeb Bush is tin-eared and totally wrong about the appropriateness of a government response to mass shootings. Even so, his comments clearly imply that we should interpret the term “stuff” as a shorthand for tragedies and other crises."
"And it’s true: The incidence of tragedies doesn’t necessarily imply obvious or appropriate or feasible government responses that would prevent them from happening again. If you’re of the mindset that guns are great and that mass killings are the price of freedom, then you probably apply that truism about crises to the question of gun regulation, and find Bush’s comments unobjectionable."
"I think that’s a badly, fatally mistaken view. We reduce road fatalities not by dropping the speed limit to zero, or banning cars, but by modulating speed limits and regulating cars. We could take an analogous approach to guns. But decontextualizing “stuff happens” makes it seem like Bush shrugged off a mass killing as something akin to stepping in a dog pile. There are plenty of problems with his statement, but he didn’t do that."
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/123023/liberals-are-unfairly-taking-jeb-bushs-stuff-happens-out-context
I don't think there's any failure to provide context. His answer is to say stuff happens now let's go back to the country club. Let's go back to Starbucks. Nothing we can do about it. Stuff happens- a lot.
I'd be interested to know if the families that lost their kids yesterday would see this profound distinction. I think it all comes out the same in the wash.
So let's not worry over it. I mean in his mind he didn't mean any harm. Sure ten young students at the start of life were gunned down but we can't do anything-so let's get in that next round of gulf before night fall.
Beutler hasn't convinced me that this isn't the right interpretation. His qualifiers seem to me to be a distinction without a difference.
So stuff happens like Jeb is now at 4%. This is before today's great moment of clarify.
"Jeb Bush has been having a rough go of it in the 2016 race for President, failing to connect with republican voters while making one foot-in-mouth remark after another on a variety of campaign issues. But he may have dealt himself his most serious blow yet today when he responded to the school shooting in Oregon by saying “Stuff happens.” So it’s not surprising that the latest poll has him at a mere 4% in a poll which has a 5% margin of error. In other words he’s within the statistical margin of 0% support. But here’s the kicker: the poll was conducted before today’s remarks."
"That means Jeb Bush is likely to fall even lower in the polls as a result. It’s not clear how much lower he can go from here. Today’s national Pew poll says that he’s in sixth place among republicans, with just four percent of them viewing him as their choice for President. And now he’s gone and said something so callous that those on both sides of the gun control issue may end up deciding he’s simply not enough of a human being to qualify for President. He had nothing to say about the deaths of the students, no condolences to offer to their families, no acknowledgement that the nation has a problem. He simply wrote it off as a non-issue. So where does he go from here?"
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/stuff-happens-jeb-bush-is-now-polling-so-badly-hes-below-the-margin-of-error/22687/
Meanwhile. Politico has helpfully put together a collage of some of the greatest hits in Jeb's bloopers throughout the campaign.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/jeb-bush-unfortunate-comments-stuff-happens-214390
I still think one of his all time gems was back when he was running for Governor of Florida in 1994 and an African American woman asked him what he could do for blacks and his answer as Probably nothing.
I'm sure Beutler has the more charitable reading of that one as well.
"Let’s stipulate that Jeb Bush is tin-eared and totally wrong about the appropriateness of a government response to mass shootings. Even so, his comments clearly imply that we should interpret the term “stuff” as a shorthand for tragedies and other crises."
"And it’s true: The incidence of tragedies doesn’t necessarily imply obvious or appropriate or feasible government responses that would prevent them from happening again. If you’re of the mindset that guns are great and that mass killings are the price of freedom, then you probably apply that truism about crises to the question of gun regulation, and find Bush’s comments unobjectionable."
"I think that’s a badly, fatally mistaken view. We reduce road fatalities not by dropping the speed limit to zero, or banning cars, but by modulating speed limits and regulating cars. We could take an analogous approach to guns. But decontextualizing “stuff happens” makes it seem like Bush shrugged off a mass killing as something akin to stepping in a dog pile. There are plenty of problems with his statement, but he didn’t do that."
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/123023/liberals-are-unfairly-taking-jeb-bushs-stuff-happens-out-context
I don't think there's any failure to provide context. His answer is to say stuff happens now let's go back to the country club. Let's go back to Starbucks. Nothing we can do about it. Stuff happens- a lot.
I'd be interested to know if the families that lost their kids yesterday would see this profound distinction. I think it all comes out the same in the wash.
So let's not worry over it. I mean in his mind he didn't mean any harm. Sure ten young students at the start of life were gunned down but we can't do anything-so let's get in that next round of gulf before night fall.
Beutler hasn't convinced me that this isn't the right interpretation. His qualifiers seem to me to be a distinction without a difference.
So stuff happens like Jeb is now at 4%. This is before today's great moment of clarify.
"Jeb Bush has been having a rough go of it in the 2016 race for President, failing to connect with republican voters while making one foot-in-mouth remark after another on a variety of campaign issues. But he may have dealt himself his most serious blow yet today when he responded to the school shooting in Oregon by saying “Stuff happens.” So it’s not surprising that the latest poll has him at a mere 4% in a poll which has a 5% margin of error. In other words he’s within the statistical margin of 0% support. But here’s the kicker: the poll was conducted before today’s remarks."
"That means Jeb Bush is likely to fall even lower in the polls as a result. It’s not clear how much lower he can go from here. Today’s national Pew poll says that he’s in sixth place among republicans, with just four percent of them viewing him as their choice for President. And now he’s gone and said something so callous that those on both sides of the gun control issue may end up deciding he’s simply not enough of a human being to qualify for President. He had nothing to say about the deaths of the students, no condolences to offer to their families, no acknowledgement that the nation has a problem. He simply wrote it off as a non-issue. So where does he go from here?"
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/stuff-happens-jeb-bush-is-now-polling-so-badly-hes-below-the-margin-of-error/22687/
Meanwhile. Politico has helpfully put together a collage of some of the greatest hits in Jeb's bloopers throughout the campaign.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/jeb-bush-unfortunate-comments-stuff-happens-214390
I still think one of his all time gems was back when he was running for Governor of Florida in 1994 and an African American woman asked him what he could do for blacks and his answer as Probably nothing.
I'm sure Beutler has the more charitable reading of that one as well.
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