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Thursday, June 9, 2016

The Odds on When Bernie Finally Figures Out He Lost

Mike Lupica has a great piece in the Daily News about Bernie: he's becoming the Hiro Onoda of 2016.

"Bernie Sanders officially looks like Hiro Onoda now, the member of the Imperial Japanese Army who held out in the Philippines for nearly 30 years before finally surrendering in 1974. Through it all Onoda managed to hold on to his rank as a second lieutenant in his army, and keep fighting, long after the war was over. Even through the primaries of Tuesday night, most of which he lost, Bernie did the same."

"But he vows to keep fighting through a primary in Washington, D.C., that no one even knew existed. He vows to fight on to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia. This isn't about his progressive values, or ideals, this is about vanity, and stubbornness, as if he keeps getting angrier and angrier that the rest of us don't know how good he is, and how good for the country."

"It is worth noting that after Hiro Onoda finally left Lubang Island in the Philippines and returned home to Japan, there were people urging him to run for office. He even wrote a book about being a guerrilla fighter in a war long over: "No Surrender: My Thirty Year War." Bernie's is starting to feel at least that long."

"He will meet with President Obama at the White House on Thursday. So the President needs to be the one to tell Bernie Sanders that the war is over."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/bernie-sanders-admit-campaign-article-1.2666619

Let's hope it doesn't take him 30 years to realize it's over.

Yes. Saint Bernie. America's Messiah. Bernie when you talk, the earth moves. Like Angry Black Lady once said on Twitter: after Bernie, I now know what love is.

It's funny, though it's kind of scary. The good news: Dems dodged a real bullet. Someone this self-righteous should never get anywhere near the Oval Office.

"Then, and once more, he was talking about his vision of the future, as if it is the only one that matters in America. This is what he believes, in the spirit of being a true revolutionary, which means someone who only sees one side of things: His own. If you even suggest that Hillary Clinton beat him straight up, that she not only got more superdelegates than he did and more pledged delegates but millions more in the popular vote, than you're just one more person throwing down with a rigged system."

Yes. That's the drawback of someone with such moral self-certainty. It's all about good and evil and no gray areas.

All fanatics like Barry Goldwater believe that they alone know the Truth. You disagree, that just proves your a shill or in Goldwater's case, a Communist.

"Moderation in the protection of liberty is no virtue; extremism in the defense of freedom is no vice."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater

The Hillary bashers heckle that she is 'the status quo.'

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/robyn-urback-clintons-primary-win-was-indeed-a-historic-moment-but-her-candidacy-is-still-very-much-of-the-status-quo

So was the Weimar Republic. But the Germans wanted 'change' back in 1933.

But I don't see Hillary as the status quo, ironically. She''s actually the really radical position: someone who is not promising to save the world on day one of her Presidency

In recent years, fanaticism has been the status quo. The GOP has been the main offender which is why they refused to work with the President even where they agreed, even where he was giving them way more than most liberals-including me-wanted to give away.

http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/06/center-left-not-ultra-left.html

But the GOP refused to work with him it was 'Hell, no.' So now the Dems don't bother trying to offer them anything anymore. It was the GOP who taught the Obama White House to be liberal.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/03/dan-pfeiffer-exit-interview.html

But now Bernie wants Democrats to go down this same rabbit hole. No thanks.

There's nothing down that rabbit hole, but Hiro Onoda.

Lupica spells it out for Bernie:

"This is no longer about how Sanders came as close as he did — though not as close as he wants us to believe — at shocking the world. This isn't about the size of his crowds, or roar of his crowds, or the way he roused the young and the disaffected, as much as Trump has roused the very white and the disaffected. This isn't even about all the whining Sanders has done about a rigged system, as if they somehow changed the rules once he started to make his run."

"This is about Sanders being asked to declare, as much as guys like Ryan, and various other cowards in the Republican Party, have been asked to declare on their side of this thing. Does Trump need more ammunition from Bernie against Hillary Clinton? Come on. Before long, he'll be trying to convince the country that Bill and Hillary are Leopold and Loeb. But the idea that Sanders doesn't hurt her the longer he refuses to leave the stage is as much of a fantasy as Sanders still saying there is a path to the nomination."

"Somebody needs to give Sanders the hook. He needs to understand, once and for all, that if he is not helping the nominee from his own party that he is helping the presumptive nominee from the other party. That's the deal."

Hopefully Obama gets through to him today-their meeting is just 45 minutes away or so.

9 comments:

  1. Maddow had on a Bernie supporting woman who seemed pretty cultish last night. Rachel could barely get a word in.

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  2. Yep. Nina Turner. She's always like that. Just talks over you the whole time.

    Once they put her across from Barney Frank. He held is own, of course.

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  3. I think Bernie should have a vacation. Cool down and let his defeat sink in.

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  4. Agreed. But just make sure this vacation doesn't take until the convention to let it sink in.

    I admit that I've been there. In 2008 I was a huge Hillary supporter-tough to believe, I know-and was disappointed that Obama beat her out.

    I felt like the media was unfair to her-as they always are-and felt like her own aspiration story as the first female President was totally overlooked by Obama's quest to be the first Black President.

    To be sure, Hillary did not really emphasize her being the first woman like she has this time. Now she''s accused of playing the gender card.

    Anyway, I was very disappointed. It took me a long weekend but by the next week I was ready to win it for Obama.

    Now I'm a fairly resilient guy for the most part.

    My mother took much longer to get over it and get behind Obama. My mom is Jamaican and has a skin hue similar to Obama's but she was always for Hillary.

    Many Hillary fans took longer than I did-PUMA, etc.

    But Hillary set the tone. Not the night she was officially beaten but soon after.

    Bernie gets some time but if he waits till the convention or after the convention, then he's worthless.

    Hillary should never work with him when she gets to the WH and the Senate Dems should strip him of all leadership.

    If he does his part then at least the WH will always be an open door for him though he sure won't be the VP or anything like that.

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    1. Well, it sounds like he took a step in that direction after his WH meeting today. Not completely there yet though.

      O/T: streiff posted a link to this, which is pretty funny (Trump as your drunk neighbor):
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwp-J1j6Q54

      Also (streiff says) Trump picked up a celebrity endorsement today: Rosanne Barr.

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  5. On a good note, I saw a car in font of me today, and on the far left (appropriately) there was a slightly weathered looking Bernie 2016 bumper sticker, and just to its right a brand new Hillary sticker! =)

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  6. No doubt you've seen Obama's "I'm with her" ad, right? It's very good:
    http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/06/09/obama-imwithher/

    Of course the sour grapes crew is not a fan. I think they're just jealous of something called "having a sane nominee":
    http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/06/09/obama-imwithher/

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  7. O/T: pretty funny sketch:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8gs3_Byfoo

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