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Tuesday, June 21, 2016

The Democratic Nomination Process: a Nice Mixture

UPDATE: If you haven't signed the petition to protect our Democratic super delegate process, there's still time. 

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/187/688/621/keep-our-democratic-super-delegate-process/?taf_id=26384665&cid=twitter#

Right now we're closing in on 1300 out of the 2000 signatures needed. Please don't let it lose steam.

A nice mixture.

That's what Chuck Schumer says about having both super delegates and caucuses.

"The Congressional Black Caucus and Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York, the future Democratic leader, oppose tinkering with the system. CBC Chairman G.K. Butterfield of North Carolina said he was “outraged” to even hear about it, arguing that “eliminating superdelegates would be discriminatory and prevent African-American officeholders from participating in the convention.”

“I’m fine with the superdelegates,” Schumer said in an interview. “Caucuses harness the energy of individual people, they’re legitimate. Superdelegates harness those who worked in the party a long time. I’m for having a nice mixture.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/superdelegates-bernie-sanders-senate-support-224548#ixzz4CD0OhoXn

The Berners have made eliminating the SD process a priority even though it had nothing to do with the outcome.

"But Sanders and his supporters argue the system gives too much power to party elites and could lead to a scenario in which members of Congress defy the will of voters. At points during the campaign, Sanders argued that Hillary Clinton might not have been able to win without superdelegates, though ultimately they were not the difference-maker."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/superdelegates-bernie-sanders-senate-support-224548#ixzz4CD0cLtJ6

As it didn't happen in 2016 and it's never happened before in a Democratic primary, it's really a fake issue. If it's not broke, don't fix it, I argue.

http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-super-delegate-system-is-not-broken.html

UPDATE: If you haven't already, please sign the petition to protect the super delegate process.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/187/688/621/keep-our-democratic-super-delegate-process/?taf_id=26384665&cid=twitter#

With the powerful opposition of the Black Caucus, it's going to have an uphill climb.

http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/06/congressional-black-caucus-to-bernie.html

If you were going to eliminate or lessen the SDs, you'd have to eliminate or lessen the caucuses.

Schumer's argument that it's a nice mixture is a point Jamelle Bouie has made. It gives it a nice combination of majoritarian and nonmajoritarian rules.

I don't agree with making it a purely majoritarian process. Arguably, the current process has the right mixture. Basically it's 75 to 80 percent majoritarian and 20 to 25 percent nonmajoritarian.

Any reduction in SDs must come with a reduction in caucuses.

"It’s unclear, though, whether Sanders and his supporters would accept a middle ground. Democratic Party officials in a number of states, including Wisconsin and Maine, have already taken votes in favor of scrapping superdelegates."

"That could make it hard for progressives to accept a half-measure."

“We should get rid of superdelegates entirely,” said Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon, the only senator to endorse Sanders. “There are a tremendous number of delegates who feel like these superdelegate votes are fundamentally inconsistent with the soul of the Democratic Party.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/superdelegates-bernie-sanders-senate-support-224548#ixzz4CD2s2Wot

They say they won't the process to be as democratic as possible but getting everything you want is not democratic. It's totalitarian.

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