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Thursday, June 9, 2016

Center Left not Ultra Left

In my last post I pointed out that the Dems have voted to remain the party of Hillary and Obama not Bernie and Nina Turner.

http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-party-of-obama-and-hillary-not-nina.html

Rachel Maddow had Nina Turner on last night and Turner's whole unyielding, holier than thou attitude-we're taking over and holding the party's feet to the fire and they had all better tremble before me and Bernie-rubbed me the wrong way.

Of course, Nina Turner always rubs me the wrong way. Thank goodness she's not in office anymore.

But why is this? I think it's this absolute sense of piety. That's why I never trusted Bernie. I don't like people who speak in such absolute moral terms.

Yes taking a moral stand is important but I also think you should have some sense of modesty. It's possible that those who you disagree with aren't pure evil.

But for folks like Ms. Turner, it's impossible for reasonable people to disagree.

Again, as the President has argued, we don't want a Democratic party that becomes Utlra Left. We should not become as ideologically rigid on the Left as the GOP has on the right with the rise of the Tea Party, Ted Cruz, etc.

When you believe it's always a matter of pure good and evil-with no gray areas in between-you end up with the Ted Cruz syndrome. If you believe it's pure good and evil then you should be ideologically rigid.

Trump protoype Barry Goldwater showed himself to be such an ideologue in 1964 when he said that 'moderation in the Moderation in the protection of liberty is no virtue; extremism in the defense of freedom is no vice."

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater

Think about the failure of this rigidity in practice though. The GOP has lost the popular vote 5 times in the last 6 elections.

In 2011, the Upton Window was leaning Right. Obama was offering chained CPI for Social Security and raising the Medicare age. Dems were asking that the Bush tax cuts expire only for those who make over $1 million per year.

The GOP said 'My way or the highway.'

In 2013, the Bush tax cuts expired for all those who make over $450,000 and now Obama is calling for an expansion of Social Security.

Avoiding the vice of moderation sure helped them.

Why the Dems would want to follow them down this rabbit hole of ideological rigidity is a mystery to me.

Thankfully the party has just said no to Bernie and Nina Turner.


2 comments:

  1. "When you believe it's always a matter of pure good and evil-with no gray areas in between-you end up with the Ted Cruz syndrome."

    Yes, and Erickson/RedState seem to cut Cruz an awful lot of slack. They have a piece up critical today of those in the GOP just now dumping trump asking "Why didn't you see what this guy was made of months ago???" ... and in the very next breath they praise Cruz for keeping silent on the issue (just like he was silent all those early months of the campaign last summer). Although Steve Berman does ask today (paraphrasing) "Will Cruz have principles or we he speak at the convention?"

    I saw Turner on TV: you're right. I thought she was very cultish.

    "Trump protoype Barry Goldwater showed himself to be such an ideologue in 1964 when he said that 'moderation in the Moderation in the protection of liberty is no virtue; extremism in the defense of freedom is no vice.""

    What was it Robespierre used to say? "Terror without virtue is fatal; virtue without terror is impotent."

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