Even with Biden's imaginary campaign that the media insists on making the topline number she is running away with it.
"When Vice President Joe Biden, who has not indicated his intentions yet, is added in, the needle moves but Mrs. Clinton still remains heavily in the lead with 44% to Mr. Biden’s and Mr. Sander’s 18% each, Mr. O’Malley’s 4% and Mr. Webb’s 3%. The race is closer among men (36% for Mrs. Clinton to Mr. Biden’s 22% and Mr. Sanders’ 21%) than women (50% to 15% Sanders and 14% Biden). Mr. Sanders does best among the youngest voters (37% for Clinton to his 26% and Biden’s 12%) while Mr. Biden polls his best among voters over 50 year of age (23% to Mrs. Clinton’s 42% among 50-64 year olds, and 43% to 24% among those over 65)."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2015/09/23/biden-in-or-biden-out-hillary-dominates-the-field/
When Biiden is rightly taken out so as to not artificially weaken her numbers her domination is even more stark:
"A brand new Zogby Analytics Poll of 515 likely Democratic primary/caucus voters nationwide, with a margin of sampling error of +/- 4.3 percentage points, shows that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton holds a huge lead over all of her rivals for the nomination. The new poll, conducted online September 18 and 19, has Mrs. Clinton leading Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders 52% to 24%, with former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley at 3%, former Virginia Senator Jim Webb with 2%, and 19% either undecided or choosing another candidate."
"Mrs. Clinton leads by wide margins among men (46% to 29%) and women (58% to 20%), Democrats (60% to 21%), liberals (63% to 29%), moderates (48% to 26%), conservatives (46% to 17%), Hispanics (52% to 24%) and African Americans (65% to 20%). She and Mr. Sanders are close only among independents with Mrs. Clinton at 33% to Mr. Sanders’ 31% and 31% undecided."
Yet we keep hearing how she's just shedding support.
For Hillary supporters, I beg you folks:
1. No more bedwetting.
2. But if you have to panic not in public. Why do her supporters ever give the media anything to hang their Hillary bashing hats on?
3. There's an old saying When I hear the world culture I get my gun.
Hillary fans should paraphrase this: When I hear that Hillary is not likeable and is a bad candidate I get my gun.
I know, we're liberals so we only get this gun after proper background checks but you get my drift.
Please understand. Hillary will not be defeated if she is on issues. The GOP is a clownshow-or have you missed every word of the primary this year? So they can't win on issues.
They will try to win by attacking her personally. If you like me have followed politics since Bill Clinton's first election you know this is how they always go about it.
Matt Yglesias makes a key point: what they have been doing to Hillary is very similar to what they did to Gore in 2000.
"Why is the media more interested in Hillary's email than in Jeb's profoundly dishonest tax pitch?"
"When Vice President Joe Biden, who has not indicated his intentions yet, is added in, the needle moves but Mrs. Clinton still remains heavily in the lead with 44% to Mr. Biden’s and Mr. Sander’s 18% each, Mr. O’Malley’s 4% and Mr. Webb’s 3%. The race is closer among men (36% for Mrs. Clinton to Mr. Biden’s 22% and Mr. Sanders’ 21%) than women (50% to 15% Sanders and 14% Biden). Mr. Sanders does best among the youngest voters (37% for Clinton to his 26% and Biden’s 12%) while Mr. Biden polls his best among voters over 50 year of age (23% to Mrs. Clinton’s 42% among 50-64 year olds, and 43% to 24% among those over 65)."
When Biiden is rightly taken out so as to not artificially weaken her numbers her domination is even more stark:
"A brand new Zogby Analytics Poll of 515 likely Democratic primary/caucus voters nationwide, with a margin of sampling error of +/- 4.3 percentage points, shows that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton holds a huge lead over all of her rivals for the nomination. The new poll, conducted online September 18 and 19, has Mrs. Clinton leading Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders 52% to 24%, with former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley at 3%, former Virginia Senator Jim Webb with 2%, and 19% either undecided or choosing another candidate."
"Mrs. Clinton leads by wide margins among men (46% to 29%) and women (58% to 20%), Democrats (60% to 21%), liberals (63% to 29%), moderates (48% to 26%), conservatives (46% to 17%), Hispanics (52% to 24%) and African Americans (65% to 20%). She and Mr. Sanders are close only among independents with Mrs. Clinton at 33% to Mr. Sanders’ 31% and 31% undecided."
Yet we keep hearing how she's just shedding support.
For Hillary supporters, I beg you folks:
1. No more bedwetting.
2. But if you have to panic not in public. Why do her supporters ever give the media anything to hang their Hillary bashing hats on?
3. There's an old saying When I hear the world culture I get my gun.
Hillary fans should paraphrase this: When I hear that Hillary is not likeable and is a bad candidate I get my gun.
I know, we're liberals so we only get this gun after proper background checks but you get my drift.
Please understand. Hillary will not be defeated if she is on issues. The GOP is a clownshow-or have you missed every word of the primary this year? So they can't win on issues.
They will try to win by attacking her personally. If you like me have followed politics since Bill Clinton's first election you know this is how they always go about it.
Matt Yglesias makes a key point: what they have been doing to Hillary is very similar to what they did to Gore in 2000.
"Why is the media more interested in Hillary's email than in Jeb's profoundly dishonest tax pitch?"
"The formative experience of my political life was the 2000 presidential campaign, in which the media mercilessly persecuted Al Gore over a series of trivial exaggerations and now-forgotten pseudo-scandals while giving George W. Bush a pass on the fact that the central premises of his economic agenda were lies."
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2015/09/matt-yglesias-has-very-important-post.html
What was Bush's dishonest tax plan next to debates over whether or not Gore said he invented the Internet or not-he didn't-that he went to a Buddhist temple-with all the talk about a religious test on Muslims now, who remembers that Gore was seen as unfit for office by simply setting foot in a Buddhist temple of all things?-or that he was in a canoe for a photo op where they added water to make it look deeper for the picture?
Yet this is what the Very Serious Pundits who are so worried about Trump's lack of policy specifics this time around were worried about in 2000.
I've noticed that the nicest things you ever hear about Hillary by the pundits is she'd make a great President but her problem is she's a bad politician.
This has no basis in fact-this is just trolling by the GOP and the latest attempt at Swift Boating.
As silly as this whole unlikeable meme is it's worked before and the GOP is serous about it.
http://www.amazon.com/Unlikeable-Problem-Hillary-Edward-Klein/dp/1621573788/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442975130&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=hillary+clinton+unlikeable
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2015/09/matt-yglesias-has-very-important-post.html
What was Bush's dishonest tax plan next to debates over whether or not Gore said he invented the Internet or not-he didn't-that he went to a Buddhist temple-with all the talk about a religious test on Muslims now, who remembers that Gore was seen as unfit for office by simply setting foot in a Buddhist temple of all things?-or that he was in a canoe for a photo op where they added water to make it look deeper for the picture?
Yet this is what the Very Serious Pundits who are so worried about Trump's lack of policy specifics this time around were worried about in 2000.
I've noticed that the nicest things you ever hear about Hillary by the pundits is she'd make a great President but her problem is she's a bad politician.
This has no basis in fact-this is just trolling by the GOP and the latest attempt at Swift Boating.
As silly as this whole unlikeable meme is it's worked before and the GOP is serous about it.
http://www.amazon.com/Unlikeable-Problem-Hillary-Edward-Klein/dp/1621573788/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442975130&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=hillary+clinton+unlikeable
As unlikeable as Jeb himself is.
What do you think of Trump trying to blame Hillary for starting birtherism?
ReplyDeleteIt really doesn't matter much to me. Etymological questions are besides the point. It is true probably that she did that-though I doubt she was the first-but. It was a tough campaign and both sides probably stepped over the line at times.
ReplyDeleteUnlike the Emoprogs of the Left I'm a pragmatist. What am I going to hold it against her forever that she added 'As far as I know...'? It was a cheap shot but she was hit with a lot of cheap shots as well
ReplyDeleteI agree that regarding Hillary it's not something to dwell on... but as far as Trump goes, I think it's hilarious. What is he saying? It's not his fault he picked up that ball of delusion and ran with it longer and further than just about anybody? I'd like to think he's just being cynical about that and that he's grounded in reality enough to know that it was never actually true (or at least, there was never any good evidence for it). But sometimes I wonder...
ReplyDeleteThe thing with Trump is that his motives don't matter. The effect is the same. I think he may realize at least somewhat what he's doing. But either way it works out the same
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't matter as long as he's not our next president. If he is it means he could waste some serious resources chasing rabbits that he's too delusional to tell aren't actually there.
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