I mean, ok, he's gone but what's next? Don't you get the idea that their scapegoating him as the reason Obamacare hasn't been repealed is based on a fallacy?
Paul Waldman:
"Caitlin MacNeil rounds up some of the conservatives celebrating Boehner’s resignation. Frankly, I don’t really get this. What do they think, that now that he’s out of the way the next speaker is going to some tea partier who’ll reallystand up to Obama? Give me a break."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/09/25/happy-hour-roundup-699/#'
That's just it: what changes? In a way the GOPers seem to have a corollary of the Green Lantern Theory of Presidential Power-where the President is held responsible for anything that goes wrong anywhere in the world-It's raining today. It's President Obama's fault as he's the President.
The GOP seems to think that if Boehner had 'really stood up toe Obama' then ACA and Planned Parenthood would be gone with no Iran deal.
They miss that they can't do these things without the Presidency.
So who's next-a tough Tea Partier who will compel Obama to do what they want through a mind meld?
"Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) -- the presumed frontrunner for his successor -- has a warmer relationship with Tea Party lawmakers, having embraced their pet causes like shutting down the Export-Import Bank. But the dynamics driving their frustration will remain the same after Boehner’s departure. No matter how badly conservatives want to repeal Obamacare,defund Planned Parenthood or block the Iran deal, the reality of a Democratic filibuster in the Senate and presidential veto in the White House will only get them so far."
"We are going to have Obama as President, we are going to have Pelosi and Reid as minority leaders, and we have McConnell who continues to fail to lift the filibuster, so we’re not going to get our agenda done as it comes out of the House," Rep. Bill Flores (R TX) told reporters Friday. "And you're going to have a new Speaker, who is going to have to wonder if he or she is the next person to lose their head."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/boehner-replacement-gop-turmoil
That's another agenda item that might pickup steam-doing the nuclear option in the Senate. Of course that still won't change anything though it would force the President to use his veto pen more often.
Of course, the Dems have a decent chance to pick up the Senate in 2017 and their majority would be much higher functioning and could really take advantage of the end of the filibuster for getting things to Hillary Clinton's desk.
In considering Boehner personally, it's true as has been widely reported: never has a guy seemed happier to lose his job. He was literally singing what a beautiful day.
He looked extremely happy. It's true that on a purely personal level he can be a tough guy to hate-and you do get that while he/s wrong on many issues if it were left to him he would prefer to see some actual dealmaking rather than endless show votes.
Paul Waldman:
"Caitlin MacNeil rounds up some of the conservatives celebrating Boehner’s resignation. Frankly, I don’t really get this. What do they think, that now that he’s out of the way the next speaker is going to some tea partier who’ll reallystand up to Obama? Give me a break."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/09/25/happy-hour-roundup-699/#'
That's just it: what changes? In a way the GOPers seem to have a corollary of the Green Lantern Theory of Presidential Power-where the President is held responsible for anything that goes wrong anywhere in the world-It's raining today. It's President Obama's fault as he's the President.
The GOP seems to think that if Boehner had 'really stood up toe Obama' then ACA and Planned Parenthood would be gone with no Iran deal.
They miss that they can't do these things without the Presidency.
So who's next-a tough Tea Partier who will compel Obama to do what they want through a mind meld?
"Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) -- the presumed frontrunner for his successor -- has a warmer relationship with Tea Party lawmakers, having embraced their pet causes like shutting down the Export-Import Bank. But the dynamics driving their frustration will remain the same after Boehner’s departure. No matter how badly conservatives want to repeal Obamacare,defund Planned Parenthood or block the Iran deal, the reality of a Democratic filibuster in the Senate and presidential veto in the White House will only get them so far."
"We are going to have Obama as President, we are going to have Pelosi and Reid as minority leaders, and we have McConnell who continues to fail to lift the filibuster, so we’re not going to get our agenda done as it comes out of the House," Rep. Bill Flores (R TX) told reporters Friday. "And you're going to have a new Speaker, who is going to have to wonder if he or she is the next person to lose their head."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/boehner-replacement-gop-turmoil
That's another agenda item that might pickup steam-doing the nuclear option in the Senate. Of course that still won't change anything though it would force the President to use his veto pen more often.
Of course, the Dems have a decent chance to pick up the Senate in 2017 and their majority would be much higher functioning and could really take advantage of the end of the filibuster for getting things to Hillary Clinton's desk.
In considering Boehner personally, it's true as has been widely reported: never has a guy seemed happier to lose his job. He was literally singing what a beautiful day.
He looked extremely happy. It's true that on a purely personal level he can be a tough guy to hate-and you do get that while he/s wrong on many issues if it were left to him he would prefer to see some actual dealmaking rather than endless show votes.
His party is rotten but personally he can be a very nice guy.
It's also clear that he was inspired by Pope Francis' speech in front of the House. If he truly wants to go out the right way then he should do what Beutler says here:
"Brian Beutler argues that John Boehner’s departure won’t do much to rescue the GOP from the very forces that did him in, though there is one thing Boehner could do for the good of his party and the country:
"Boehner probably can’t end the vicious cycle that hobbled his speakership. But he could plausibly clear the deck for his successor for long enough that the big issues Republicans want to fight over can play out in the election, rather than in the throes of governance. He could place legislation on the floor that funds the government for a year, extends the debt limit through 2016, and replenishes the highway trust fund, and allow Democrats to supply most of the votes required to restore calm. If Boehner were determined to make the next speakership less volatile than his own, and to end his own speakership on a note of responsible stewardship, he almost certainly could. What remains to be seen is whether he has one last fight left in him.:
"That might require one final act of leadership, however."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/09/25/happy-hour-roundup-699/#
It'd likely be criticized relentlessly by the Tea Party-but this is the reason he's leaving; everything he does garnishes relentless criticism. But he'd actually be helping his party take this off the table for the election cycle.
Overall, nothing much is going to change. Except the bounce in the step of one man returns.
It's also clear that he was inspired by Pope Francis' speech in front of the House. If he truly wants to go out the right way then he should do what Beutler says here:
"Brian Beutler argues that John Boehner’s departure won’t do much to rescue the GOP from the very forces that did him in, though there is one thing Boehner could do for the good of his party and the country:
"Boehner probably can’t end the vicious cycle that hobbled his speakership. But he could plausibly clear the deck for his successor for long enough that the big issues Republicans want to fight over can play out in the election, rather than in the throes of governance. He could place legislation on the floor that funds the government for a year, extends the debt limit through 2016, and replenishes the highway trust fund, and allow Democrats to supply most of the votes required to restore calm. If Boehner were determined to make the next speakership less volatile than his own, and to end his own speakership on a note of responsible stewardship, he almost certainly could. What remains to be seen is whether he has one last fight left in him.:
"That might require one final act of leadership, however."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/09/25/happy-hour-roundup-699/#
It'd likely be criticized relentlessly by the Tea Party-but this is the reason he's leaving; everything he does garnishes relentless criticism. But he'd actually be helping his party take this off the table for the election cycle.
Overall, nothing much is going to change. Except the bounce in the step of one man returns.
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