It's a classic case of trying to find a wedge issue. The GOP always does this during terrorist attacks.
A lot of GOPers are suddenly finding religion on gay rights just to attack Muslims as being anti gay rights. At the same time as they attack Muslims for being homophobic, they are also refusing to call the Orlando mass shooting a hate crime.
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/06/even-in-tragedy-gop-remains-anti-gay.html
The idea that it can be both an act of terrorism and a hate crime seems inconceivable to them.
Shorter GOP: You need to decide if you want to walk or chew gum, because you can't do both.
Trump is playing this same game in his very hamhanded attempts to exploit Orlando.
For just how hamhanded it's been see this New Yorker piece:
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/donald-trumps-exploitation-of-orlando
So now he's trying to claim he's pro gay rights and women's rights by attacking Muslims and calling for a huge ban from Muslim countries:
"In his speech today at Saint Anselm College in New Hampshire, Donald Trump advocated banning Muslims from the Middle East and South Asia from emigrating to the United States. That’s a step down from his plan last December to block all Muslims from entering the United States, but it would still put the United States on a war footing with Muslims and also put the American state in the business of judging churches. In addition, Trump sounded an ominous note by insinuating (without evidence) that American Muslims were aware of the terrorists in their midst, but were not reporting them to authorities."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump--2
I wouldn't credit him with any 'step down' here. I'm skeptical that it in effect he has done that.
"In framing the threat of radical Islam, however, Trump took a tack that may have surprised his audience and not have pleased some Republicans. Trump portrayed himself as a defender of LGBT and women’s rights against radical Islam. He said, “ Ournation stands together in solidarity with the members of Orlando's LGBT Community. A radical Islamic terrorist targeted the nightclub not only because he wanted to kill Americans, but in order to execute gay and lesbian citizens because of their sexual orientation… It is an assault on the ability of free people to live their lives, love who they want and express their identity…Radical Islam is anti-woman, anti-gay and anti-American.”
"Trump also got in a dig at Hillary Clinton by maintaining that he was in fact a greater supporter of gay and women’s rights than she was: “Ask yourself, who is really the friend of women and the LGBT community, Donald Trump with his actions, or Hillary Clinton with her words? Clinton wants to allow Radical Islamic terrorists to pour into our country—they enslave women, and murder gays. I don’t want them in our country.”
"Trump’s stand on blocking immigration from Muslims because they oppose women’s and gay rights puts him in line with some European rightwing populists like Holland’s Geert Wilders and his Freedom Party. That probably won't win him a lot of support from feminists and members of the LGBT community who are likely to oppose his blanket stand against Muslims and have not been thrilled by his attitude toward women. But his stance for gay rights won’t win him a lot of friends in his own party. As news of the massacre in Orlando broke, Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, whose opinions probably reflected other religious right Republicans, tweeted and wrote on Facebook a Bible verse: "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."
Actually though, some other GOPers like former Congressman Joe Walsh have taken Trump's basic stance: Muslims hate gays.
A lot of GOPers are suddenly finding religion on gay rights just to attack Muslims as being anti gay rights. At the same time as they attack Muslims for being homophobic, they are also refusing to call the Orlando mass shooting a hate crime.
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/06/even-in-tragedy-gop-remains-anti-gay.html
The idea that it can be both an act of terrorism and a hate crime seems inconceivable to them.
Shorter GOP: You need to decide if you want to walk or chew gum, because you can't do both.
Trump is playing this same game in his very hamhanded attempts to exploit Orlando.
For just how hamhanded it's been see this New Yorker piece:
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/donald-trumps-exploitation-of-orlando
So now he's trying to claim he's pro gay rights and women's rights by attacking Muslims and calling for a huge ban from Muslim countries:
"In his speech today at Saint Anselm College in New Hampshire, Donald Trump advocated banning Muslims from the Middle East and South Asia from emigrating to the United States. That’s a step down from his plan last December to block all Muslims from entering the United States, but it would still put the United States on a war footing with Muslims and also put the American state in the business of judging churches. In addition, Trump sounded an ominous note by insinuating (without evidence) that American Muslims were aware of the terrorists in their midst, but were not reporting them to authorities."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump--2
I wouldn't credit him with any 'step down' here. I'm skeptical that it in effect he has done that.
"In framing the threat of radical Islam, however, Trump took a tack that may have surprised his audience and not have pleased some Republicans. Trump portrayed himself as a defender of LGBT and women’s rights against radical Islam. He said, “ Ournation stands together in solidarity with the members of Orlando's LGBT Community. A radical Islamic terrorist targeted the nightclub not only because he wanted to kill Americans, but in order to execute gay and lesbian citizens because of their sexual orientation… It is an assault on the ability of free people to live their lives, love who they want and express their identity…Radical Islam is anti-woman, anti-gay and anti-American.”
"Trump also got in a dig at Hillary Clinton by maintaining that he was in fact a greater supporter of gay and women’s rights than she was: “Ask yourself, who is really the friend of women and the LGBT community, Donald Trump with his actions, or Hillary Clinton with her words? Clinton wants to allow Radical Islamic terrorists to pour into our country—they enslave women, and murder gays. I don’t want them in our country.”
"Trump’s stand on blocking immigration from Muslims because they oppose women’s and gay rights puts him in line with some European rightwing populists like Holland’s Geert Wilders and his Freedom Party. That probably won't win him a lot of support from feminists and members of the LGBT community who are likely to oppose his blanket stand against Muslims and have not been thrilled by his attitude toward women. But his stance for gay rights won’t win him a lot of friends in his own party. As news of the massacre in Orlando broke, Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, whose opinions probably reflected other religious right Republicans, tweeted and wrote on Facebook a Bible verse: "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."
Actually though, some other GOPers like former Congressman Joe Walsh have taken Trump's basic stance: Muslims hate gays.
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/06/even-in-tragedy-gop-remains-anti-gay.html
So I'm not sure this is much of a departure. If someone promising to ban Muslim immigration is getting credit for a departure either with GOP orthodoxy or with his own stance of the past, I think this is really grading on a steep curve.
Thankfully, the LGBT community isn't buying it. They say thanks but not thanks.
Trump is “no friend of the LGBTQ community,” Jay Brown, a spokesperson for Human Rights Campaign, said Monday. “Donald Trump has vowed to roll back marriage equality, pass Kim Davis-style discrimination and allow governors from coast to coast to pass laws like North Carolina’s HB2,” he said.
"Brown added that the perpetrator of the shooting at Pulse Nightclub was an “an American citizen conditioned to hate and to believe that LGBTQ people deserved to be massacred.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/lgbt-trump-orlando-shooting-224277#ixzz4BXTZiTOT
By the way, I was disappointed in Sumner recently claiming Trump is 'pro LGBT' in his comments section.
So I'm not sure this is much of a departure. If someone promising to ban Muslim immigration is getting credit for a departure either with GOP orthodoxy or with his own stance of the past, I think this is really grading on a steep curve.
Thankfully, the LGBT community isn't buying it. They say thanks but not thanks.
Trump is “no friend of the LGBTQ community,” Jay Brown, a spokesperson for Human Rights Campaign, said Monday. “Donald Trump has vowed to roll back marriage equality, pass Kim Davis-style discrimination and allow governors from coast to coast to pass laws like North Carolina’s HB2,” he said.
"Brown added that the perpetrator of the shooting at Pulse Nightclub was an “an American citizen conditioned to hate and to believe that LGBTQ people deserved to be massacred.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/lgbt-trump-orlando-shooting-224277#ixzz4BXTZiTOT
By the way, I was disappointed in Sumner recently claiming Trump is 'pro LGBT' in his comments section.
"Thanks Patrick, I really like Stillman’s work."
"On Epstein, I wonder if it’s really the culture wars. Trump favors transgender rights, for instance."
http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=31791#comments
It's true he opposed the North Carolina 'bathroom laws' but he also is against Obama's executive action to put a stop to transgender discrimination in the schools.
"Trump, though he was critical of North Carolina's so-called bathroom law, has often taken positions at odds with those of LGBT groups. Following last summer’s Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage, Trump attacked Chief Justice John Roberts for his position on Obergefell v. Hodges. “Once again the Bush appointed Supreme Court Justice John Roberts has let us down. Jeb pushed him hard! Remember!” he tweeted.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/lgbt-trump-orlando-shooting-224277#ixzz4BXVIEJZZ
http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=31791#comments
It's true he opposed the North Carolina 'bathroom laws' but he also is against Obama's executive action to put a stop to transgender discrimination in the schools.
"Trump, though he was critical of North Carolina's so-called bathroom law, has often taken positions at odds with those of LGBT groups. Following last summer’s Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage, Trump attacked Chief Justice John Roberts for his position on Obergefell v. Hodges. “Once again the Bush appointed Supreme Court Justice John Roberts has let us down. Jeb pushed him hard! Remember!” he tweeted.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/lgbt-trump-orlando-shooting-224277#ixzz4BXVIEJZZ
I believe Sumner supports gay marriage so knowing this, you can't call Trump pro LGBT .
GOP Senator Ron Johnson is opposed to Trump's Muslim ban.
"Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) said Monday that he was opposed to presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump's renewed call for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel."
"During an interview with talk radio host Jerry Bader, Johnson said he feels that the root of this weekend's terror attack in Orlando—the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history—and others is radical interpretations of Islam. But he said a ban on people of Muslim faith is the opposite of what the country should be doing."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/johnson-opposes-trump-muslim-ban-orlando
He's right. He has to be right as thanks to Trump, he's in a life and death struggle with Russ Feingold.
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-trump-effect-and-john-mccain.html
GOP Senator Ron Johnson is opposed to Trump's Muslim ban.
"Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) said Monday that he was opposed to presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump's renewed call for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel."
"During an interview with talk radio host Jerry Bader, Johnson said he feels that the root of this weekend's terror attack in Orlando—the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history—and others is radical interpretations of Islam. But he said a ban on people of Muslim faith is the opposite of what the country should be doing."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/johnson-opposes-trump-muslim-ban-orlando
He's right. He has to be right as thanks to Trump, he's in a life and death struggle with Russ Feingold.
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-trump-effect-and-john-mccain.html
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