In the last post I looked at how Jim Newell who has argued that Bernie has the right and obligation to go through to the end is now saying that once the voting is done Bernie needs to drop out and acknowledge the will of the Dem voters.
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/06/jim-newell-drop-out-bernie.html
Matt Yglesias predicts Bernie will lose what insider Dem support he has-ie, the SDs-after today.
"While Sanders's hypothetical campaign would be premised on the idea of winning superdelegates over to his side, the reality is that after California and New Jersey vote, the opposite is going to happen."
"Right now there are still 128 superdelegates who haven't endorsed anyone yet. That's everyone from Barack Obama, Al Gore, and Jimmy Carter to over 100 members of the Democratic National Committee whom nobody has heard of. None of these people are going to respond to the end of voting by coming off the fence in favor of Sanders, and some of them will respond to the end of voting by coming off the fence in favor of Clinton."
https://twitter.com/jrivera64/status/740013031631945728
Speaking of SDs, here's Merkley one of Bernie's few endorsements by Establishment Dems.
“We have to be unified to take on Trump. And that unity is going to begin today as soon as the polls close,” Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., says on CNN.
“To come together, people have to feel like they’ve been respected and they’ve been heard,” Merkley says
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/06/jim-newell-drop-out-bernie.html
Matt Yglesias predicts Bernie will lose what insider Dem support he has-ie, the SDs-after today.
"While Sanders's hypothetical campaign would be premised on the idea of winning superdelegates over to his side, the reality is that after California and New Jersey vote, the opposite is going to happen."
"Right now there are still 128 superdelegates who haven't endorsed anyone yet. That's everyone from Barack Obama, Al Gore, and Jimmy Carter to over 100 members of the Democratic National Committee whom nobody has heard of. None of these people are going to respond to the end of voting by coming off the fence in favor of Sanders, and some of them will respond to the end of voting by coming off the fence in favor of Clinton."
https://twitter.com/jrivera64/status/740013031631945728
Speaking of SDs, here's Merkley one of Bernie's few endorsements by Establishment Dems.
“We have to be unified to take on Trump. And that unity is going to begin today as soon as the polls close,” Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., says on CNN.
“To come together, people have to feel like they’ve been respected and they’ve been heard,” Merkley says
“It is absolutely important to be together”
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-06-07/sanders-backer-sen-merkley-says-party-unity-to-begin-today
Unity begins today.
In fact, even Bernie voters are now saying it's time to unify.
Here is a tweet from Juan, a Bernie supporter:
In fact, even Bernie voters are now saying it's time to unify.
Here is a tweet from Juan, a Bernie supporter:
"I voted for Bernie but Hillary is the nominee of my party and I will support her. That's how democracy works."
https://twitter.com/jrivera64/status/740013031631945728
You have to respect Juan's respect for the process.
I think most Bernie voters will feel this way. You certainly can't claim to believe in democracy if you don't.
Look, losing is never easy. I was a Hillary man in 2008, but I can say with pride that I was never PUMA.
Within days of Obama's victory my attitude was, ok, let's elect a President. I think it took me the weekend to get over it.
I have since voted for Obama twice and I've never regretted it for one moment.
https://twitter.com/jrivera64/status/740013031631945728
You have to respect Juan's respect for the process.
I think most Bernie voters will feel this way. You certainly can't claim to believe in democracy if you don't.
Look, losing is never easy. I was a Hillary man in 2008, but I can say with pride that I was never PUMA.
Within days of Obama's victory my attitude was, ok, let's elect a President. I think it took me the weekend to get over it.
I have since voted for Obama twice and I've never regretted it for one moment.
Mike, perhaps this isn't the best place for this quote, in a comment to your piece on Dem unity in the wake of HRC's victory, but I left this Jennifer Rubin quote on Sumner's post today (the one in which he gives you an H/T) because I think it makes the case for a Hillary hater to support her rather than Trump (i.e. it's aimed at those who are convinced HRC is corrupt):
ReplyDelete"That, you see, is only one problem with electing a grudge-holding racist who wallows in self-pity. To him, entire groups of Americans are disloyal and out to get him.
And while you are thinking of that, consider how Trump would do with the powers of the Internal Revenue Service, National Security Agency, FBI, CIA and every regulatory agency and board under him. It is hard to imagine him overseeing the fair and impartial operation of all of those bodies. In his hands, every power becomes a weapon to settle scores and punish people being “unfair” to him.
Hillary Clinton is no angel when it comes to rigging the system for her own benefit. Nevertheless, she generally has manipulated the system for her own and her husband’s benefit, to protect their secrecy and their pocketbooks. It’s hard to imagine her seeking to refashion the federal government by institutional bigotry or trying to warp its powers into instruments of revenge. She may be somewhat corrupt (judging from the conflicts of interest emanating from her foundation and speech-giving), but she isn’t a threat to the republic. I do not think you can say the same about Trump with any degree of confidence."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/06/07/how-far-does-trumps-racism-take-him/
Also Sumner seemed to like my comment here:
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One of the few nice surprises of the campaign is the revelation that left wing campus PC nuts and Trumpistas are clearly shown to be two sides of the same coin.
My comment:
I wonder if Trump’s wall is so appealing because it feeds the illusion of making America a “safe space” for the alt-right. His threatened legal punishments of his ‘libelers’ are the alt-right version of lefty campus PC extremists punishing speech they don’t like.
Sumner:
That’s actually kind of perceptive.
Actually it is a good comment in that I'm thinking of writing a post about Paul Ryan's tough appearances today, trying to say that Trump says racist stuff but is not in fact a racist and anyway, Ryan doesn't like Hillary's policies.
ReplyDeleteI made this point to one of the Trumpsters at Scott the other day-of course it went straight over his head.
I may want a higher MW-while Sumner wants a lower one.
But I'm not going to vote for a dictator because he'll raise the MW and Sumner won't vote for him because he'll lower it.
There are issues but then there is the very system of government which is more fundamental.
Mike, Leon Wolf (whom I think is the head honcho over at RedState now) continues with his great pieces on Trump (this one is regarding the Curiel "La Raza" lie Trump's supports are foaming at the mouth about):
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I've noticed that Leon's pieces are now almost exclusively anti-Trump. Commenter "streiff" is the other side of the coin over there, offering up about 40% anti-Trump pieces and 60% anti-HRC pieces. Susan Wright is closer to Wolf. Other's fall somewhere between those two poles.
If you'd asked me last June if the that's how things would be at RedState regarding the GOP and Dem candidates in a year, I would have said you were crazy.
Mike, this one is hilarious: senator Bob Corker (R) when asked repeatedly if he thinks Trump is "fit to be president" avoids saying "yes":
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Wasn't Corker rumored to have been on Trump's VP list?
... he even resurrects H.W.'s famous "wouldn't be prudent" line from the early 1990s!
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