Chuck Todd called out Bernie for his blatant double standard yesterday regarding super delegates. It's an assault on democracy-if the SDs are for Hillary. If they're for Bernie, then it's perfectly fair.
"Noting states in which he won “landlside victories,” Sanders said he would tell superdelegates from those states, “Do what the people in your state want. They voted for Bernie Sanders, you as the superdelegates should follow their wishes.”
“We’re going to make the case for the superdelegates,” Sanders explained. “‘Your job is to make sure that Trump is defeated, that Bernie Sanders, in fact, for a variety of reasons, not just polling, is the strongest candidate.'”
"Todd stopped Sanders by pointing out the hypocrisy of also appealing to superdelgates from states Clinton won to switch their votes."
“You’re saying you want them to respect the vote in their state, then at the same time, you say, ‘But oh, by the way, for those of you that are a superdelegate in a state that Clinton won, why don’t you think about the general election?’ It’s a little bit hypocritical to be on both sides of those issues,” Todd said.
“No, no, no, that’s not what I’m saying,” Sanders argued, adding that superdelegates have a “grave responsibility” to make sure Donald Trump doesn’t become president."
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/chuck-todd-slams-sanders-for-being-hypocritical-over-superdelegate-votes-now-that-he-needs-them/
Yes, yes, yes, Bernie. If you cared about stopping Trump from being President you wouldn't be working so hard to undermine Hillary Clinton at every step of the way.
But you clearly have a dual standard: a different standard for delegates in states she wins the popular vote and where you win.
In Wyoming over the weekend the Dems were able to avoid the theatrics at Nevada.
"Wyoming's Democratic Convention on Saturday didn't erupt into chaos. There was no chair-throwing, and there were no procedural disruptions."
"But supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders did come away with a small victory. The Wyoming Democratic Party opted to forward a petition to the Democratic National Committee proposing a change to the state's delegate allocation so Sanders would get five district-level delegates and Hillary Clinton would get three. That would represent a shift of one delegate to Sanders."
"The petition, by Wyoming land surveyor Richard Kusaba, is meant to make the delegate allocation better reflect the outcome of the caucuses. Sanders won the state's caucuses with 57 percent of the vote, while Clinton got 43 percent."
"I have studied the Delegate Selection Plan and found that this is wrong," Kusaba wrote in his petition.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/wyoming-democrats-sanders-clinton-223695#ixzz4A9gj7RKP
Note that Kusaba and the rest of the Berners has a pretty flexible idea of what is wrong.
In Nevada they felt it was wrong that Hillary got more delegates even though she got more votes. Now in Wyoming it's wrong that Bernie does not get more delegates even though he got more votes.
Basically the candidate with more votes wins-regardless of district apportionment and proportional rules-if Bernie gets more votes.
If Hillary gets more votes than it doesn't matter who gets more votes. Clearly the Berners are all about Absolute Justice.
So all this over 2 delegates just like Nevada was a fight over 2 delegates. Kusaba apparently doesn't realize Bernie trails by a lot more than 2 delegates.
P.S. Tom seems to be giving me a friendly warning.
"Now Mike, don't go make it more difficult for Berners having a tantrum to swallow their pride and come around the HRC eventually (in the various twitter battles I imagine you're having). Point out that Trump is Hitler 2.0, but let the Berners get it out of their system. I don't want you to piss them off so much they feel they have to punish you personally. =)"
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/05/berners-for-donald-trump.html?showComment=1464556180330#c9085117140231315472
Tom's probably right in principle but the Berners sure make it hard.
The trouble is that their grievances are just so absurd. They are ready to riot over a two delegate difference that has no impact anyway.
But they basically want the rules bent in their favor. We have had this same Democratic primary system since Tad Devine pioneered SDs in 1984. Yet the Berners want to change the rules in midstream.
"Noting states in which he won “landlside victories,” Sanders said he would tell superdelegates from those states, “Do what the people in your state want. They voted for Bernie Sanders, you as the superdelegates should follow their wishes.”
“We’re going to make the case for the superdelegates,” Sanders explained. “‘Your job is to make sure that Trump is defeated, that Bernie Sanders, in fact, for a variety of reasons, not just polling, is the strongest candidate.'”
"Todd stopped Sanders by pointing out the hypocrisy of also appealing to superdelgates from states Clinton won to switch their votes."
“You’re saying you want them to respect the vote in their state, then at the same time, you say, ‘But oh, by the way, for those of you that are a superdelegate in a state that Clinton won, why don’t you think about the general election?’ It’s a little bit hypocritical to be on both sides of those issues,” Todd said.
“No, no, no, that’s not what I’m saying,” Sanders argued, adding that superdelegates have a “grave responsibility” to make sure Donald Trump doesn’t become president."
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/chuck-todd-slams-sanders-for-being-hypocritical-over-superdelegate-votes-now-that-he-needs-them/
Yes, yes, yes, Bernie. If you cared about stopping Trump from being President you wouldn't be working so hard to undermine Hillary Clinton at every step of the way.
But you clearly have a dual standard: a different standard for delegates in states she wins the popular vote and where you win.
In Wyoming over the weekend the Dems were able to avoid the theatrics at Nevada.
"Wyoming's Democratic Convention on Saturday didn't erupt into chaos. There was no chair-throwing, and there were no procedural disruptions."
"But supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders did come away with a small victory. The Wyoming Democratic Party opted to forward a petition to the Democratic National Committee proposing a change to the state's delegate allocation so Sanders would get five district-level delegates and Hillary Clinton would get three. That would represent a shift of one delegate to Sanders."
"The petition, by Wyoming land surveyor Richard Kusaba, is meant to make the delegate allocation better reflect the outcome of the caucuses. Sanders won the state's caucuses with 57 percent of the vote, while Clinton got 43 percent."
"I have studied the Delegate Selection Plan and found that this is wrong," Kusaba wrote in his petition.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/wyoming-democrats-sanders-clinton-223695#ixzz4A9gj7RKP
Note that Kusaba and the rest of the Berners has a pretty flexible idea of what is wrong.
In Nevada they felt it was wrong that Hillary got more delegates even though she got more votes. Now in Wyoming it's wrong that Bernie does not get more delegates even though he got more votes.
Basically the candidate with more votes wins-regardless of district apportionment and proportional rules-if Bernie gets more votes.
If Hillary gets more votes than it doesn't matter who gets more votes. Clearly the Berners are all about Absolute Justice.
So all this over 2 delegates just like Nevada was a fight over 2 delegates. Kusaba apparently doesn't realize Bernie trails by a lot more than 2 delegates.
P.S. Tom seems to be giving me a friendly warning.
"Now Mike, don't go make it more difficult for Berners having a tantrum to swallow their pride and come around the HRC eventually (in the various twitter battles I imagine you're having). Point out that Trump is Hitler 2.0, but let the Berners get it out of their system. I don't want you to piss them off so much they feel they have to punish you personally. =)"
http://lastmenandovermen.blogspot.com/2016/05/berners-for-donald-trump.html?showComment=1464556180330#c9085117140231315472
Tom's probably right in principle but the Berners sure make it hard.
The trouble is that their grievances are just so absurd. They are ready to riot over a two delegate difference that has no impact anyway.
But they basically want the rules bent in their favor. We have had this same Democratic primary system since Tad Devine pioneered SDs in 1984. Yet the Berners want to change the rules in midstream.
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