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Thursday, May 26, 2016

The Election to End all Elections

If we get this one wrong it could just be the end of elections. Those who say no, trust Trump a lot more than I'm willing to do.

Once you have the gears of power in your own hands, well... Remember the saying: possession is nine tenths of the law.

I know we're a nation of laws, but does Donald Trump realize this? I've seen no proof of this. Putting your faith and trust that he has restraint is not the best bet you can make.

I had some more fun with Major Freedom and E. Harding over in the comments section of Money Illusion.

I recently asked Major if he votes at all as he seemed to be defending Trump or at least takes exception to the criticism that Scott Sumner throws at Trump. I pointed out that Herman Hoppe surely doesn't vote as democracy is the God That Failed that destroys property rights.

http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf

E. Harding helpfully answered that Major doesn't vote. Tom Brown may like my response:

"But think about this though Harding. What if a Presidential candidate were to run on ending democracy a la Hitler? Or who knows, maybe Trump? After all, once he were elected he might think that maybe we can put off the election a few times."

"He’d probably say ‘Look, I agree we have to have elections every 4 years. But some people say maybe this time we should push it back a couple of years, do it in 6 years. Now I don’t know enough about it, I have to have my people do some research.’

"Would a Herman Hoppe or a Major vote then-if it was a vote to end all votes?"

http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=31722

We have a guy running on rolling back democracy. On banning people based on their religion. On cracking down on critical media, on giving protesters what they have coming to them.

Much of the media, now that he's the GOP nominee are treating him like an entirely normal candidate.

They are much more interested in nitpicking Hillary Clinton over double standards and trifles about emails than talking about the fact that this could be the election to end all elections and a vote to end all votes.

Sumner likens Trump to Berlucsoni.

"In the 1990s, Berlusconi founded a new political party called “Forza Italia”, which means something like “Go Italy!” or “Be Strong Italy!” He was going to push his country past the inept Italian politics of the past. Although nominally conservative, Berlusconi’s party didn’t have much of an ideology. It appealed to all sorts of disgruntled people, especially the less educated, and mostly relied on media image making. Berlusconi was very wealthy, and involved in TV, and also was involved with a string of beautiful young women, some underage. A walking ad for Viagra. He was also the kind of guy that would sue people for libel when they criticized him, so perhaps I need to be careful here. (The Economist won its libel suit, and warned the Italians that Berlusconi was unfit for office. When the Economist says a candidate is completely unfit for office, it’s worth listening.)"

http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=31729

I agree there are clearly lots of similarities. I also think he is like Hitler. True, there are a lot of ways that he's different. But there are a lot of ways he's similar.

For starters, Trump keeps a book full of Hitler's speeches locked in a cabinet by his bed. Or his contempt for the press and protesters. Or his disparaging comments about Jews and other minorities.

I think it's more important to accentuate the similarities between Trump and Hitler than the differences.
Why? Because I don't want him to be President.

Anyone who wastes the time to tell me that he's not Hitler, obviously is a lot more sanguine about the possibility of President Trump than I am.

For me the task at hand is pretty straightforward. Josh Marshall:

"The relevant point it's not about being right. It's not about anyone's feelings. Hillary Clinton is going to be the Democratic nominee. She won fair and square. The only relevant issue is putting her in the oval office rather than Donald Trump."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/very-interesting--9

Anyone taking the time to lecture people why Trump is not Hitler and that we shouldn't exaggerate obviously disagrees with me and Josh Marshall.

Do you want to take a President Trump off the table or not? If you do then what''s wrong with calling him Hitler even if in some literal ultimate sense, it's hyperbole? If it is?

6 comments:

  1. Mike, related to your concern about the media normalizing Trump, you should check out the latest "This Modern World" cartoon. It had me laughing out loud. It's called "The Great Trump Over-Load"

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    1. Here it is:
      http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1528990

      I just read a paper version myself while eating my dinner.

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  2. Mike, you might like this one. Rubin turns on her favorite, Rubio:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/05/27/the-trumpkin-hall-of-shame/
    And actually she was disappointed with him when he said he still planned to support the nominee even after Trump won, but as of yesterday morning, before Rubio made those comments about more actively supporting Trump, Rubin held out hope for his future and wrote a post advising him not to run for a 2nd term. Now it sounds like she's given up on him. He's in the same category as Christie is now for her: basically as low as you can get.

    Oddly TheResurgent made no mention. RedState did, however, and it was pretty anti-Marco.

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    1. I think Erickson is slightly hesitant to universally condemn all those who become Trump supporters. I noticed the change after one of his favorites (Perry) chose to support Trump. Erickson was curiously silent on that. Later he wrote a piece acknowledging that some on the right are "team players" ... and thus, even though they are still good conservatives, they may choose to support Trump. Rubin is actually showing herself to be more principled I think. Also I think Erickson could see a day in the future when Cruz (his absolute favorite) would one day support Trump. He didn't want to box himself into a corner ... he wanted a way to say he could understand why someone might do that. In Rubin's case, she never liked Cruz, so she'll have no problem there (if and when Cruz decides to get on the Trump train). But to her credit, she didn't tolerate that behavior from her favorite (Rubio).

      She links to this "conservative" in her piece:
      http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donald-trump-has-exposed-marco-rubio/article/2592452?custom_click=rss

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  3. Mike, a cartoon (or rather a "meme") I saw on RedState:
    http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3710/9232/original.jpg?w=600&h

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