There has been a lot of complaints that Tsipras and his government lied to his people before Sunday's vote and that may well be the case.
"Tsipras [the leader of Syriza] has made a series of wild promises that he cannot deliver. Before January’s election, he pledged that he would tear up the country’s bailout programme while staying in the euro. The two are almost certainly incompatible goals, as the Greek people are now discovering at huge cost."
"In advance of Sunday’s referendum, he has given further assurances. One is thatsavers’ bank deposits are safe. He also said he will have a deal with Greece’s creditors within 48 hours of the plebiscite, if they vote no to the bailout plan. In fact, deposits are at risk and the chance of a deal in two days is virtually nil. A good democrat only promises what he or she can deliver. Tsipras is a demagogue."
http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2015/07/if-eu-loved-antonis-samaras-so-much-why.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DiaryOfARepublicanHater+%28Diary+of+a+Republican+Hater%29
Ok but then is Jeb Bush a demagogue after claiming he can create 4% growth?
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/little-big-men/?module=BlogPost-Title&version=Blog%20Main&contentCollection=Opinion&action=Click&pgtype=Blogs®ion=Body
I don't think he actually lied about tearing up the programme-he's at least really resisting it. The talk of 48 hours was certainly hyperbole but is this worse than contradicting everything we know about economics like Jeb is doing? My point is that democratic politicians lie and exaggerate all the time-why is Tsipras alone being held to such a high standard.
I have to say that Varoufakis will be missed though he was the one that claimed there'd be a deal in 24 hours after the election. If you haven't done so you really should checkout his blog.
"Tsipras [the leader of Syriza] has made a series of wild promises that he cannot deliver. Before January’s election, he pledged that he would tear up the country’s bailout programme while staying in the euro. The two are almost certainly incompatible goals, as the Greek people are now discovering at huge cost."
"In advance of Sunday’s referendum, he has given further assurances. One is thatsavers’ bank deposits are safe. He also said he will have a deal with Greece’s creditors within 48 hours of the plebiscite, if they vote no to the bailout plan. In fact, deposits are at risk and the chance of a deal in two days is virtually nil. A good democrat only promises what he or she can deliver. Tsipras is a demagogue."
http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2015/07/if-eu-loved-antonis-samaras-so-much-why.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DiaryOfARepublicanHater+%28Diary+of+a+Republican+Hater%29
Ok but then is Jeb Bush a demagogue after claiming he can create 4% growth?
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/little-big-men/?module=BlogPost-Title&version=Blog%20Main&contentCollection=Opinion&action=Click&pgtype=Blogs®ion=Body
I don't think he actually lied about tearing up the programme-he's at least really resisting it. The talk of 48 hours was certainly hyperbole but is this worse than contradicting everything we know about economics like Jeb is doing? My point is that democratic politicians lie and exaggerate all the time-why is Tsipras alone being held to such a high standard.
I have to say that Varoufakis will be missed though he was the one that claimed there'd be a deal in 24 hours after the election. If you haven't done so you really should checkout his blog.
Here he happily talks about falling on his sword after the election win:
"Like all struggles for democratic rights, so too this historic rejection of the Eurogroup’s 25th June ultimatum comes with a large price tag attached. It is, therefore, essential that the great capital bestowed upon our government by the splendid NO vote be invested immediately into a YES to a proper resolution – to an agreement that involves debt restructuring, less austerity, redistribution in favour of the needy, and real reforms.
"Soon after the announcement of the referendum results, I was made aware of a certain preference by some Eurogroup participants, and assorted ‘partners’, for my… ‘absence’ from its meetings; an idea that the Prime Minister judged to be potentially helpful to him in reaching an agreement. For this reason I am leaving the Ministry of Finance today."
"I consider it my duty to help Alexis Tsipras exploit, as he sees fit, the capital that the Greek people granted us through yesterday’s referendum."
http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/2015/07/06/minister-no-more/
However, he did make a curious comment recently and Bill Mitchell is calling him on that-his claim that 'We have destroyed all our printing presses, there are no more printing presses.'
"The then Finance Minister replied: “Of course they do … we don’t have a capacity … because … Maybe you don’t know that. But when Greece entered the euro in the year 2000 … one of the things we had to do was to get rid of all our printing presses … in order to impress on the world that this is not a temporary phenomenon … that we mean this to be forever … we smashed the printing presses, so we have no printing presses”. The interchange occurred at the 49:46 minute mark in the – following program. In my research for my Eurozone book, which was published in May this year, I studied in some detail how the euro was introduced, how it is disseminated, how the notes are printed and the coins minted and how nations in other contexts had introduced their own currencies. When I heard that interview I wondered why the then Greek Finance Minister would want to mislead the Australian listeners, even though interviews like this are no longer geographically restricted and that he was clearly intent on convincing the world, a few days before the referendum, that Syriza was committed to the euro and exit was not an option. Earlier in the week, I had railed against the lies and misinformation coming out of the EU leadership. The boot was on the other foot in this case."
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=31313
Again, I don't necessarily think you kill him here but what worries me is what this means in terms of the government's mindset. If they really don't have a Plan B-Grexit-then they really don't know what the are doing.
"Like all struggles for democratic rights, so too this historic rejection of the Eurogroup’s 25th June ultimatum comes with a large price tag attached. It is, therefore, essential that the great capital bestowed upon our government by the splendid NO vote be invested immediately into a YES to a proper resolution – to an agreement that involves debt restructuring, less austerity, redistribution in favour of the needy, and real reforms.
"Soon after the announcement of the referendum results, I was made aware of a certain preference by some Eurogroup participants, and assorted ‘partners’, for my… ‘absence’ from its meetings; an idea that the Prime Minister judged to be potentially helpful to him in reaching an agreement. For this reason I am leaving the Ministry of Finance today."
"I consider it my duty to help Alexis Tsipras exploit, as he sees fit, the capital that the Greek people granted us through yesterday’s referendum."
http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/2015/07/06/minister-no-more/
However, he did make a curious comment recently and Bill Mitchell is calling him on that-his claim that 'We have destroyed all our printing presses, there are no more printing presses.'
"The then Finance Minister replied: “Of course they do … we don’t have a capacity … because … Maybe you don’t know that. But when Greece entered the euro in the year 2000 … one of the things we had to do was to get rid of all our printing presses … in order to impress on the world that this is not a temporary phenomenon … that we mean this to be forever … we smashed the printing presses, so we have no printing presses”. The interchange occurred at the 49:46 minute mark in the – following program. In my research for my Eurozone book, which was published in May this year, I studied in some detail how the euro was introduced, how it is disseminated, how the notes are printed and the coins minted and how nations in other contexts had introduced their own currencies. When I heard that interview I wondered why the then Greek Finance Minister would want to mislead the Australian listeners, even though interviews like this are no longer geographically restricted and that he was clearly intent on convincing the world, a few days before the referendum, that Syriza was committed to the euro and exit was not an option. Earlier in the week, I had railed against the lies and misinformation coming out of the EU leadership. The boot was on the other foot in this case."
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=31313
Again, I don't necessarily think you kill him here but what worries me is what this means in terms of the government's mindset. If they really don't have a Plan B-Grexit-then they really don't know what the are doing.
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