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Friday, March 20, 2015

Jose Canseco vs. Jay McGwire: Someone's Lying

     Apparently, the media wasn't too interested in the brother of Mark McGwire's book 2009 about the great slugger's steroid use-I consider him to be a great slugger, yes.

      Everyone loved Canseco's Juiced and takes everything in it as Bible but by 2009, the word was that there was fatigue on the whole topic. However, I read Jay McGwire's his Mark and Me with a good deal of interest. With all the wild demonetization of anyone who ever used-or is widely thought to have used- steroids, I think it's at least fair that you have your facts straight. Most people don't, but don't let them stop them from piously dismissing the body's of work of some great players.

      http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070103

     http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2015/03/bill-madden-sanctimonious-phony.html

     They worry that the records of payers who used steroids somehow desecrates the Holy records of Ruth, Mantle, and Maris. Never do they consider that if asterisks belong next to the record of a Mark McGwire or Barry Bonds, surely it belongs past these players who played in a worse era than the Steroid Era-the Segregation Era.

    I for one, would just like to get at the truth of what happened-for how else can we have an intelligent discussion about it? Most of the pious folks protecting the sanctity of the game don/t think the facts matter too much; no, for them what counts is a show of righteous anger.

   Regarding Canseco and his whistle blowing, I've done everything I can to get to the truth of what he did. I read Juiced, followed by his Vindication that came out in 2008 but was much less widely read, and, yes, even his ex-wife, Jessica Canseco's book, Juicy; no, her book is hardly flattering. Most stories told by ex-wives probably aren't, but certainly it's not an attractive picture we get there.

   http://www.amazon.com/Juicy-Confessions-Former-Baseball-Wife/dp/0060889454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426877570&sr=8-1&keywords=juicy+jessica+canseco

   In Vindicated, he spends a lot of time talking about how he took 2 different lie detector tests which proves he didn't like in Juiced.

   http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2015/03/jose-canseco-steroids-and-who-cares.html

   As if lie detectors can't be wrong either way. I have no doubt that his basic narrative in Juiced was right-there was a lot of steroid use. Indeed, in the book, he more or less pats himself on the back for bringing steroids into the league-in Vindicated he also brags about driving them out as well.

    What I find interesting about McGwire's brother's book though, is that he contradicts Canseco who claimed that he introduced Mark to steroids in 1988 and would inject them into his butt right in the clubhouse.

    From what Jay says, none of this is plausible. He claims that it was he, himself, who introduced Mark to steroids and this was after he was injured throughout most of a second season in a row in 1994. At 31, he worried that his career was over if he had more seasons like the last 2. Jay argues that his brother was very cautious and would never have trusted someone like Canseco-who he wasn't terribly close to.

   Jay is a bodybuilder and knows a little about steroids-to say the least; again, he's a bodybuilder. He says he talked his older brother into using them in 1994 and that at the time he clearly had never tried them before.

   This is what led to his big run in the late 90s. So it's one author's word against another. So who do you believe? Well, I guess you have to judge who's more credible. For me that's Jay. To be sure, one could question his credibility as his older brother hasn't spoken to him since 2002-maybe because of his talking him into steroids?-but his story sounds more credible than Canseco's, who really isn't tremendously credible on anything.

    Some accuse Jay of throwing his brother under the bus

     http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070103

    but I don't think that's what happened. Canseco has already thrown Mark under the bus, and at least Jay helps us better understand the record.

 

 

   

     

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