I mean if the Patriots were cheaters who didn't deserve all their Super Bowl rings because of Spygate, maybe we should throw out next year's two Bills-Jets games. I mean supposedly if you have a team's signals you're going to beat them no matter what. Who could possibly know more about what the Jets do than Rex Ryan? Surely, Todd Bowles will change some things but certainly not over night.
The reality is while everyone is talking about football pressure, this is really still all about Spygate. After all, how many pundits have said that if this was another team other than the Patriots, Deflategate would not be news?
I really don't think though that all the moral absolutists who say that 'It's called cheating. The Patriots did it and now everything they've accomplished is tarnished' have spent even a second really thinking this through. Bellichick shocked the room yesterday by actually answering a question about Spygate rather than what he's always done in the past: refuse to dignify with a response, a favorite tactic of his.
"Many of us in the room nearly fell off our chairs when he didn’t turn back a question related to Spygate and its correlation to the current case. Instead, he tackled it directly."
http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2015/01/bill-bellichick-lets-his-hair-down-on.html
I think you have to relativize your absolutist position and be honest: have any other teams ever done this? If so, then even if this breaks the rules it kind of equals out any advantage from doing it. In truth accusations of stealing your signals are as old as the hills.
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The Packers and Bears used to accuse each other of this, the Bengals and the Oilers-now the Titans-used to do it in the era of Jerry Glanville and Sam Wyche. People tend not to understand Bellichick's point: this is not inside information: what coaches do on the sidelines is visible for everyone. You can watch it there but you aren't allowed to tape it and watch it later? I get that it's the rule but before you try to tarnish the Patriots record you might at least try to figure out why it;s the rule and what the real point of it is.
When teams lose they often have make this charge. 'It's because our opponents stole our signals.' Usually the charge is made between bitter divisional or playoff rivals. Again, people have the wrong idea about this: they seem to think studying the signals of a coaching staff is like seeing the answers for a math test. It's not that simple. It's not like the Patriots won every game they had tapes for.
Remember too that Spygate was started by then Jets coach Ed Mangini who had come over just a year ago to the Jets from the Patriots. He obviously knew virtually everything the Pats do, In reality if the Pats taped the Jets in 2006, it still can't teach them a fraction as much about the Jets at the time as Mangini knew about his old team the Patriots. Yet, the Jets didn't have much success against NE with him at the helm.
Again, knowing a team's signals is not the same thing as cheating on a math test. All these folks attacking the Patriots are just bitter because of the team's success-I'm not a Patriots fan but a Giants fan, but I think it's a sad thing this type of schadenfreude.
It's like an attack on greatness where they can't of earned this, it must be cheating. A lot of people just like to see greatness questioned. Maybe they've never achieved anything themselves and feel relieved if it's shown that greatness just isn't possible. I'm not a Patriots fan but I guess it falls to me to say it: leave the Patriots alone. They fully deserve everything they've accomplished. If you say otherwise than give me some real history of stealing signals-talk about what other teams have done not just the Patriots. Maybe even mention Bountygate ought to be looked atwhich for Aikman to claim was not as bad as this is just astonishing.
I mean does anyone claim that the Saints should give back their SB trophy? Yet, shouldn't we go through all their opponents for the year and see how many great playmakers on offense that Saints knocked out? After all, if you deliberately break the opposing team's QB's leg, that's surely a bigger advantage than taping something that's publicly available to everyone.
The reality is while everyone is talking about football pressure, this is really still all about Spygate. After all, how many pundits have said that if this was another team other than the Patriots, Deflategate would not be news?
I really don't think though that all the moral absolutists who say that 'It's called cheating. The Patriots did it and now everything they've accomplished is tarnished' have spent even a second really thinking this through. Bellichick shocked the room yesterday by actually answering a question about Spygate rather than what he's always done in the past: refuse to dignify with a response, a favorite tactic of his.
"Many of us in the room nearly fell off our chairs when he didn’t turn back a question related to Spygate and its correlation to the current case. Instead, he tackled it directly."
“That’s a whole other discussion,” Belichick said. “The guy is giving signals out in front of 80,000 people, OK? So we filmed him taking signals out in front of 80,000 people like there were a lot of other teams doing at that time, too, OK? But forget about that. If we were wrong, then we’ve been disciplined for that."
“The guy is in front of 80,000 people — 80,000 people saw it. Everybody’s sideline saw it. Everybody sees our guy in front of the 80,000 people. I mean, there he is. So it was wrong. We were disciplined for it. That’s it. We never did it again. We’re never going to do it again.” http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2015/01/bill-bellichick-lets-his-hair-down-on.html
I think you have to relativize your absolutist position and be honest: have any other teams ever done this? If so, then even if this breaks the rules it kind of equals out any advantage from doing it. In truth accusations of stealing your signals are as old as the hills.
http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2015/01/phil-simms-doesnt-believe-tom-brady.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DiaryOfARepublicanHater+%28Diary+of+a+Republican+Hater%29
The Packers and Bears used to accuse each other of this, the Bengals and the Oilers-now the Titans-used to do it in the era of Jerry Glanville and Sam Wyche. People tend not to understand Bellichick's point: this is not inside information: what coaches do on the sidelines is visible for everyone. You can watch it there but you aren't allowed to tape it and watch it later? I get that it's the rule but before you try to tarnish the Patriots record you might at least try to figure out why it;s the rule and what the real point of it is.
When teams lose they often have make this charge. 'It's because our opponents stole our signals.' Usually the charge is made between bitter divisional or playoff rivals. Again, people have the wrong idea about this: they seem to think studying the signals of a coaching staff is like seeing the answers for a math test. It's not that simple. It's not like the Patriots won every game they had tapes for.
Remember too that Spygate was started by then Jets coach Ed Mangini who had come over just a year ago to the Jets from the Patriots. He obviously knew virtually everything the Pats do, In reality if the Pats taped the Jets in 2006, it still can't teach them a fraction as much about the Jets at the time as Mangini knew about his old team the Patriots. Yet, the Jets didn't have much success against NE with him at the helm.
Again, knowing a team's signals is not the same thing as cheating on a math test. All these folks attacking the Patriots are just bitter because of the team's success-I'm not a Patriots fan but a Giants fan, but I think it's a sad thing this type of schadenfreude.
It's like an attack on greatness where they can't of earned this, it must be cheating. A lot of people just like to see greatness questioned. Maybe they've never achieved anything themselves and feel relieved if it's shown that greatness just isn't possible. I'm not a Patriots fan but I guess it falls to me to say it: leave the Patriots alone. They fully deserve everything they've accomplished. If you say otherwise than give me some real history of stealing signals-talk about what other teams have done not just the Patriots. Maybe even mention Bountygate ought to be looked atwhich for Aikman to claim was not as bad as this is just astonishing.
I mean does anyone claim that the Saints should give back their SB trophy? Yet, shouldn't we go through all their opponents for the year and see how many great playmakers on offense that Saints knocked out? After all, if you deliberately break the opposing team's QB's leg, that's surely a bigger advantage than taping something that's publicly available to everyone.
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