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Wednesday, June 3, 2015

NGDP Targeting an Idea Whose Time is Coming?

     Certainly the positive comments Larry Summers recently made on them would seem to suggest it is. Here is Sumner at his guest blog at Econolog:

     "Over at TheMoneyIllusion a commenter named Julius Probst told me that he asked Larry Summers about NGDP targeting, and Summers seemed supportive. After I mentioned this in my blog, Politico decided to ask him directly. Here's what they found:"

Did Summers, who is likely to have the ear of the next White House if a Democrat wins in 2016, call for a change in how the Fed does business?
We emailed him to check, and he quickly wrote back: "I didn't quite endorse NGDP targeting. I said that I would prefer a shift to NGDP targeting to a shift up in inflation targets."
What does Summers mean by "a shift up in inflation targets?" Over the past few months, a debate has emerged in economics over whether the Fed's 2 percent inflation target should be raised in light of the persistent low levels of inflation in recent years. A higher inflation target would enable the Fed to lower real interest rates further--to -3 percent, for instance, instead of -2 percent--to spur demand in the event of another recession.
Summers argues that an NGDP target is preferable to a higher inflation target for two reasons. "The lower real growth [is], the lower real rates may need to go and [NGDP] unlike pure inflation targeting guarantees this," he wrote. Summers also expressed concern about measuring inflation. He added, "a target that doesn't depend on inflation adjustments" makes more sense.
While Summers isn't endorsing NGDP targeting, he's tiptoeing awfully close to the line. By parsing Summers's words--in particular, the word "quite"--you can tell he's not far off. Adopting NGDP targeting would be a revolutionary change for the Fed, and Summers's almost-backing is indicative of the speed at which it's gaining supporters.
The NGDP debate stems from the emerging concern that the powerful Fed hasn't quite been powerful enough to sustain a strong recovery. The Fed cut short-term rates to zero, for instance, but that wasn't enough to snap the economy out of its prolonged slump. The Fed also used unconventional policies such as "quantitative easing" -- the purchase of hundreds of billions of dollars of Treasury bills and mortgage-backed securities to lower long-term interest rates. Those all helped, but the recovery has still been slow.
How would NGDP targeting have changed this? It generally doesn't change the tools at the Fed's disposal, like setting short-term interest rates, but it would let the central bank use them more aggressively. Nominal GDP growth has been around 4 percent for the past five years. Under a 5 percent NGDP target, the Fed would have had to loosen policy even further, perhaps by increasing its asset purchases. If inflation suddenly increased, nominal GDP growth, by definition, would rise as well, requiring the Fed to tighten policy to fulfill its mandate. In both cases, proponents say, the Fed would be creating a more stable macroeconomic environment.
Summers isn't in office, true, but few economists have his academic pedigree and his influence in Washington. In January, he co-authored a report for the Center for American Progress that is widely considered to be a preview of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's economic platform. Summers himself nearly became Fed Chair last year but Obama ultimately nominated Janet Yellen after Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and other liberal senators opposed Summers's nomination.
If anyone could move this idea from the classroom to reality, it would be Summers. That might not be too far away.
    http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2015/06/larry_summers_o_4.html

    I have to admit, it's impressive stuff-Larry Summers who obviously is an economist of great influence and reach, and is of course very close with Hillary World, and being discussed in Politico.

    It's always seemed to me that there were 2 aspects of Sumner's Market Monetarist project:

    1. NGDP targeting instead of inflation targeting

   2. full monetary offset

   It seems that liberals or moderates are seduced by 1-and at that point conservatives are a little suspicious-but are won back with 2-which ought to make liberals rather suspicious.

   Still, as I never liked inflation targeting anyway-what real liberal would?-NGDP couldn't be any worse; I think there's a decent chance that it would be better. It would make it far less likely that the Fed would tighten at the wrong time.

   I have seen some criticism of NGDP targeting-most prominently from my long time reader, Greg. But I can't see how NGDP targeting would be worse than inflation targeting.

 

   

      

5 comments:

  1. The question still remains how do you know you are hitting your target? Is there even a good real time measure of NGDP that is any better than inflation?

    Seems to me this would be the first step to outlawing transactions with currency. This would mean all transactions take place through the banking system via deposits or credit cards and can therefore be monitored/tabulated.

    Ive heard nothing about progress on an NGDP futures market (if there was any Sumner would be trumpeting it, we know THAT for sure) and just because Larry Summers or Paul Krugman "like" the idea doesn't make the idea any more workable in the real world.

    What I suspect we will see is a pivot to higher inflation targeting under the name of NGDP targeting. The fed will simply declare they are targeting NGDP and no one else will know better.

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  2. No there hasn't been any progress on futures-in no way am I assuming there has been. From what I understand it's doubtful there ever will be on that.

    Obviously Summers supporting it doesn't prove it's right but that's not what my post was mainly about anyway-just that politically it's really being considered.

    If I understand your point you think a NGDP target is basically the same thing as an inflation target?

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  3. At the end of the day if all it amounts to is a higher inflation target, that's still progress-over the current lower target I mean;

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  4. Well I think it has been considered for some time (Im not sure exactly what "politically" means as a qualifier to considered). Krugman stated as much years ago, as have various fed people. What has happened I think is that there are now calls to do more and a lot of people are uncomfortable with "more" inflation" seeing as it is such a boogie man of the hard money types.

    Many have thought targeting NGDP would be a great thing but absolutely no one has any idea how to do it. They are just calling for doing it. This is why I think they will just say they are "doing it" (how can anyone say they aren't??) and simply target higher inflation.

    Yes a higher inflation target might make some things that you and I care about better but it is far form the answer, in my view. Its just that that is all bankers/central bankers can do, they are helpless to do anything else.

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  5. That was Krugan's point-NGDP is just a more politically acceptable way to raise the inflation rate.

    Sumner's rationale is that there is supply side and demand side inflation and NGDPLT will target only the demand side.

    Is it the answer? Well it's not optimal but it's an improvement so I'll take it. That doesn't stop me or anyone else trying to go further.

    It also doesn't mean we can't use fiscal policy too-even Bernanke has asked for fiscal stimulus.

    Sumner is the one who's dogmatic about monetary offset

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