Evidently, Boehner is determined to make a liar out of me as I've predicted that we'd avoid it all along.
http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2013/09/my-prediction-we-avoid-government.html
Now many see it a shutdown as a more or less foregone conclusion. Certainly Boehner is still posturing at the 11th hour of the deadline with yet another bill to cut back on Obamacare has been promised:
"In a move that would make a government shutdown all but inevitable, House Republicans intend to pass yet another bill Monday night to undermine Obamacare, just hours before a midnight deadline to keep the government open."
"Their new strategy is to attach a one-year delay of Obamacare's individual mandate and a provision denying subsidies under the law to members of Congress and staff, commonly known as the Vitter amendment. Numerous Republican lawmakers expressed some doubt in the afternoon that the plan had the votes."
"It's a matter of fairness for all Americans," Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) told reporters. Would he bring up a "clean" continuing resolution? "That's not going to happen," he said.
"If that's the case, the federal government will shut down one minute after midnight, as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) promised to reject any provision that messes with Obamacare. Exiting a closed-door meeting Monday, multiple Republican lawmakers told TPM that a stopgap measure to continue the status quo was not even discussed."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/house-gop-signals-shutdown-with-yet-another-anti-obamacare-vote
We can certainly argue about the worth of predictions.
http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2013/09/as-long-as-im-predicting-no-govt.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DiaryOfARepublicanHater+%28Diary+of+a+Republican+Hater%29
It certainly wasn't a winner for me yesterday in Kansas City. It's still difficult that Boehner will really be this silly. He necessarily has to convince his base he is this silly. But surely at the last minute he'll take his finger off the button.
We do get conservatives trying to rewrite history. For years it's been understood by the GOP establishment that the government shutdown of the 90s was disastrous for the GOP-Gingrich has himself admitted to mistakes in how it was handled. Yet we are hearing noises from the Right that maybe a shutdown is not so bad just as in those who want to believe that failure to accomplish immigraton reform won't hurt them so bad.
So we are now hearing talking points like John Cuncan, GOP Congressman from Tennesse:
"Look, the government has been shut down 17 times in the past," Duncan said. "This isn't about shutting the government down. ... Obamacare is actually shutting America down."
Whatever is giving Republcans this optimism it's not polls which show the opposite:
"Senate Dems today flatly rejected the House GOP measure funding the government while delaying Obamacare for a year, kicking the ball back on to House GOP turf. House Republicans promptly announced they would hold another vote on a measure funding the government – this time with a delay of the individual mandate attached, along with a provision nixing Obamacare subsidies for Members of Congress and staff. Harry Reid then promptly said this will be a nonstarter, too.
And in the midst of all this, new Washington Post/ABC News polling finds overwhelming public disapproval of the GOP’s handling of negotiations over the budget. Only 26 percent of Americans approve, versus 63 percent who disapprove. Among independents, those numbers are 21-66; among moderates they are 22-66."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/09/30/gop-continues-sinking-as-government-shutdown-looks-all-but-certain/
Soon we will know whether I had way too much faith in Boehner and the GOP establishment. I still find it hard to believe that they really thin they'll get a different result this time. If they won't Boehner is playing a great hand as no one watching him has any sense of hope that he gets that shutting down the government will never be a winner for the GOP no matter ho many 'other government shutdowns' Tea Partiers like Duncan come up with.
http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2013/09/my-prediction-we-avoid-government.html
Now many see it a shutdown as a more or less foregone conclusion. Certainly Boehner is still posturing at the 11th hour of the deadline with yet another bill to cut back on Obamacare has been promised:
"In a move that would make a government shutdown all but inevitable, House Republicans intend to pass yet another bill Monday night to undermine Obamacare, just hours before a midnight deadline to keep the government open."
"Their new strategy is to attach a one-year delay of Obamacare's individual mandate and a provision denying subsidies under the law to members of Congress and staff, commonly known as the Vitter amendment. Numerous Republican lawmakers expressed some doubt in the afternoon that the plan had the votes."
"It's a matter of fairness for all Americans," Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) told reporters. Would he bring up a "clean" continuing resolution? "That's not going to happen," he said.
"If that's the case, the federal government will shut down one minute after midnight, as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) promised to reject any provision that messes with Obamacare. Exiting a closed-door meeting Monday, multiple Republican lawmakers told TPM that a stopgap measure to continue the status quo was not even discussed."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/house-gop-signals-shutdown-with-yet-another-anti-obamacare-vote
We can certainly argue about the worth of predictions.
http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2013/09/as-long-as-im-predicting-no-govt.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DiaryOfARepublicanHater+%28Diary+of+a+Republican+Hater%29
It certainly wasn't a winner for me yesterday in Kansas City. It's still difficult that Boehner will really be this silly. He necessarily has to convince his base he is this silly. But surely at the last minute he'll take his finger off the button.
We do get conservatives trying to rewrite history. For years it's been understood by the GOP establishment that the government shutdown of the 90s was disastrous for the GOP-Gingrich has himself admitted to mistakes in how it was handled. Yet we are hearing noises from the Right that maybe a shutdown is not so bad just as in those who want to believe that failure to accomplish immigraton reform won't hurt them so bad.
So we are now hearing talking points like John Cuncan, GOP Congressman from Tennesse:
"Look, the government has been shut down 17 times in the past," Duncan said. "This isn't about shutting the government down. ... Obamacare is actually shutting America down."
Whatever is giving Republcans this optimism it's not polls which show the opposite:
"Senate Dems today flatly rejected the House GOP measure funding the government while delaying Obamacare for a year, kicking the ball back on to House GOP turf. House Republicans promptly announced they would hold another vote on a measure funding the government – this time with a delay of the individual mandate attached, along with a provision nixing Obamacare subsidies for Members of Congress and staff. Harry Reid then promptly said this will be a nonstarter, too.
And in the midst of all this, new Washington Post/ABC News polling finds overwhelming public disapproval of the GOP’s handling of negotiations over the budget. Only 26 percent of Americans approve, versus 63 percent who disapprove. Among independents, those numbers are 21-66; among moderates they are 22-66."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/09/30/gop-continues-sinking-as-government-shutdown-looks-all-but-certain/
Soon we will know whether I had way too much faith in Boehner and the GOP establishment. I still find it hard to believe that they really thin they'll get a different result this time. If they won't Boehner is playing a great hand as no one watching him has any sense of hope that he gets that shutting down the government will never be a winner for the GOP no matter ho many 'other government shutdowns' Tea Partiers like Duncan come up with.
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