I see that over the weekend both New York and New Jersey introduced quarantines for health care workers that treat Ebola in West Africa. We have Democrat Andrew Cuomo Governor of NY and Republican Governor Chris Christy of New Jersey implementing these policies that I'm not a fan of.
Still, as usual the Republican is a little more vociferous in the implementation of the policy. Cuomo's policy does at least allow for returning health care workers to stay in their homes for the 21 day period-albeit this was due to some pressure so I don't want to laud him too much.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/nyregion/ebola-quarantine.html?_r=0
Christy, however, has really outdone himself. He's already under investigation for Bridgegate for his appalling abuse of power and now he's again infringing on the civil rights of New Jersey residents. A nurse placed under this forced quarantine over the weekend now has a lawyer to sue. Yes, I know you have all these conservatives up in arms about lawyers run amok, but you hardly have to be a 'bleeding heart' to be given more than a little pause than just how Christy's draconian policy has been instituted/
"The New York quarantine policy appears designed to strike a different tone from New Jersey, where Kaci Hickox, a 33-year-old Doctors Without Borders nurse, has been held in a tent in a Newark hospital for three days under conditions that she said Sunday were “really inhumane.”
Yeah holding someone hostage in a tent. That's what an alleged libertarian like Christy thinks is acceptable in 2014 America. At least he understands the hardship he has placed Ms. Hickox who just wanted to help people suffering and epidemic in.
"New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie held firm on his decision to quarantine returning health-care workers. “I absolutely have no second thoughts about it,” he said on Fox News."
Oh wait.. This is really pretty despicable on Christy's part. Can this really be someone who Americans are considering electing President of the United States in 2016? I mean if you think George W. Bush didn't care about civil liberties wait to you listen to this guy.
I have always found Christy to be particularly lacking in empathy-call it the 'empathy deficit.' Even here, you can make a coherent argument for a quarantine but at least admit that it's a real hardship on health care workers who are trying to do God's work. We don't need to put a chilling effect on those who want to go to West Africa and fight this epidemic there before it comes here. Oh wait-it's too late, it's already here. At the least then let's fight that epidemic there before it becomes an epidemic here.
At least Mr. 'Sticking to my guns' and Mr. "I'm holding firm' understands the subtitles of the issue:
"Mr. Christie said Saturday that “I’m sorry if in any way she was inconvenienced, but inconvenience that could occur from having folks that are symptomatic and ill out amongst the public is a much, much greater concern of mine. So certainly nothing was done intentionally to try to inconvenience her or try to make her uncomfortable.”
Don't ever let anyone tell you he's not a sensitive guy. NYC Mayor de Blasio had it right here:
"Mr. Cuomo’s announcement on Sunday was made with New York Mayor Bill de Blasio , who had criticized how Ms. Hickox was treated. “State governments have the right to make decisions. But this hero coming back from the front, having done the right thing, was treated with disrespect,” Mr. de Blasio told reporters.
Look, I don't necessarily want to laud the civil liberties sensibilities of Democrats-they are often unreliable and follow the GOP's lead into hysteria unrelated to what President Obama tells us we ought to focus on-the science.
However, even when Democrats go with policies like this they are usually following the GOP's lead and going with a general fear and panic feeling that respecting civil liberties may be bad politics.
The GOP always runs rather than walks into policies like this. So where are all those libertarians I'm always hearing about on the Right or does this only apply to corporations having to pay taxes? And don't tell me about Rand Paul-he's been arguing for quarantines.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-10-20/rand-paul-calls-for-quarantine-of-countries-struck-by-ebola
In fact he's been a major leader in whipping up fear. Calling for outright bans for travel from the afflicted countries.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119903/dallas-ebola-quarantine-effective-will-panic-stoking-politicians-pay
Can we just once and for all put to be this talk of 'the libertarian Rand Paul? This has got to be as anti a libertarian policy as you can imagine and yet where is the criticism? Or the whole idea of libertarians is totally vacuous.
I'll tell you one thing. I thank God that we don't have a Republican in the White House right now with the start of this terrible epidemic. Obama has hit just the right note.
"The White House has voiced concern to the governors of New York and New Jersey about the potential impact of quarantine orders imposed on medical workers returning from West Africa who had contact with Ebola patients, a senior administration official said on Sunday."
"We have let the governors of New York, New Jersey, and others states know that we have concerns with the unintended consequences of policies not grounded in science may have on efforts to combat Ebola at its source in West Africa," the Obama administration official said in a statement.
Still, as usual the Republican is a little more vociferous in the implementation of the policy. Cuomo's policy does at least allow for returning health care workers to stay in their homes for the 21 day period-albeit this was due to some pressure so I don't want to laud him too much.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/nyregion/ebola-quarantine.html?_r=0
Christy, however, has really outdone himself. He's already under investigation for Bridgegate for his appalling abuse of power and now he's again infringing on the civil rights of New Jersey residents. A nurse placed under this forced quarantine over the weekend now has a lawyer to sue. Yes, I know you have all these conservatives up in arms about lawyers run amok, but you hardly have to be a 'bleeding heart' to be given more than a little pause than just how Christy's draconian policy has been instituted/
"The New York quarantine policy appears designed to strike a different tone from New Jersey, where Kaci Hickox, a 33-year-old Doctors Without Borders nurse, has been held in a tent in a Newark hospital for three days under conditions that she said Sunday were “really inhumane.”
Yeah holding someone hostage in a tent. That's what an alleged libertarian like Christy thinks is acceptable in 2014 America. At least he understands the hardship he has placed Ms. Hickox who just wanted to help people suffering and epidemic in.
"New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie held firm on his decision to quarantine returning health-care workers. “I absolutely have no second thoughts about it,” he said on Fox News."
Oh wait.. This is really pretty despicable on Christy's part. Can this really be someone who Americans are considering electing President of the United States in 2016? I mean if you think George W. Bush didn't care about civil liberties wait to you listen to this guy.
I have always found Christy to be particularly lacking in empathy-call it the 'empathy deficit.' Even here, you can make a coherent argument for a quarantine but at least admit that it's a real hardship on health care workers who are trying to do God's work. We don't need to put a chilling effect on those who want to go to West Africa and fight this epidemic there before it comes here. Oh wait-it's too late, it's already here. At the least then let's fight that epidemic there before it becomes an epidemic here.
At least Mr. 'Sticking to my guns' and Mr. "I'm holding firm' understands the subtitles of the issue:
"Mr. Christie said Saturday that “I’m sorry if in any way she was inconvenienced, but inconvenience that could occur from having folks that are symptomatic and ill out amongst the public is a much, much greater concern of mine. So certainly nothing was done intentionally to try to inconvenience her or try to make her uncomfortable.”
Don't ever let anyone tell you he's not a sensitive guy. NYC Mayor de Blasio had it right here:
"Mr. Cuomo’s announcement on Sunday was made with New York Mayor Bill de Blasio , who had criticized how Ms. Hickox was treated. “State governments have the right to make decisions. But this hero coming back from the front, having done the right thing, was treated with disrespect,” Mr. de Blasio told reporters.
Look, I don't necessarily want to laud the civil liberties sensibilities of Democrats-they are often unreliable and follow the GOP's lead into hysteria unrelated to what President Obama tells us we ought to focus on-the science.
However, even when Democrats go with policies like this they are usually following the GOP's lead and going with a general fear and panic feeling that respecting civil liberties may be bad politics.
The GOP always runs rather than walks into policies like this. So where are all those libertarians I'm always hearing about on the Right or does this only apply to corporations having to pay taxes? And don't tell me about Rand Paul-he's been arguing for quarantines.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-10-20/rand-paul-calls-for-quarantine-of-countries-struck-by-ebola
In fact he's been a major leader in whipping up fear. Calling for outright bans for travel from the afflicted countries.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119903/dallas-ebola-quarantine-effective-will-panic-stoking-politicians-pay
Can we just once and for all put to be this talk of 'the libertarian Rand Paul? This has got to be as anti a libertarian policy as you can imagine and yet where is the criticism? Or the whole idea of libertarians is totally vacuous.
I'll tell you one thing. I thank God that we don't have a Republican in the White House right now with the start of this terrible epidemic. Obama has hit just the right note.
"The White House has voiced concern to the governors of New York and New Jersey about the potential impact of quarantine orders imposed on medical workers returning from West Africa who had contact with Ebola patients, a senior administration official said on Sunday."
"We have let the governors of New York, New Jersey, and others states know that we have concerns with the unintended consequences of policies not grounded in science may have on efforts to combat Ebola at its source in West Africa," the Obama administration official said in a statement.
"We have also let these states know that we are working on new guidelines for returning healthcare workers that will protect the American people against imported cases, while, at the same time, enabling us to continue to tackle this epidemic in West Africa," the official added.
http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-seeking-reverse-ny-njs-ebola-quarantine-191850958.html
Oh, I know. Paul is a libertarian because he believes restaurant owners have the right to refuse service to black customers if that's their preference.
UPDATE: I wonder what Ralph Nader would have to say about that.
http://theweek.com/article/index/260813/ralph-nader-wants-liberals-to-back-rand-paul-dont-do-it
UPDATE: I wonder what Ralph Nader would have to say about that.
http://theweek.com/article/index/260813/ralph-nader-wants-liberals-to-back-rand-paul-dont-do-it
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