"President Obama will keep pushing for a comprehensive deal to roll back sequestration and reduce the deficit, he said Friday as he prepared to sign an order initiating the automatic spending cuts."
"We just need Republicans in Congress to catch up with their country and their party on this," he said in the White House briefing room after spending less than an hour meeting with congressional leaders in the Oval Office.
"This is not a win for anybody, this is a loss for the American people," he said. "I don't anticipate a huge financial crisis but people are going to be hurt."
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/03/obama-congressional-gop-needs-to-catch-up-with-their-158239.html?hp=t2_3
For the most part, I'm optimistic that we will ultimately defeat the sequester. It would seem that by the deadline on funding the government-March 27-we should expect something to get done. At the end of the day, I don't think Republicans can afford the sequester either as military cuts hurt many red GOP states in particular.
Talking Points Memo has an interesting premise about how the battle may unfold for March:
"After meeting with congressional leaders from both parties about sequestration spending cuts that take effect Friday, President Obama mapped out future negotiations with Republicans, which he hopes will yield an alternative deficit reduction package that includes higher taxes and cuts to Medicare.
"In a key revelation, though, he identified a way for Republicans to prevent the sequestration fight from precipitating a government shutdown."
"Crucially, Obama said he’s prepared to sign legislation at the end of March to fund the government if Republicans adhere to the spending levels they agreed to during the debt limit fight in 2011."
“It’s the right thing to do to make sure we don’t have a government shutdown,” Obama said. “If the bill that arrives on my desk is reflective of the commitments that we previously made, then obviously I would sign it.”
"His acknowledgment is important for reasons explored in this article. If House Republicans can’t pass a government funding bill that sets overall spending at levels agreed to in the Budget Control Act — funding that would automatically be reduced because of sequestration — then the government will shutdown and the pressure Republicans feel to cut a deal that both averts sequestration and keeps the government running will intensify."
“We agreed to a certain amount of money that was going to be spent each year, and certain funding levels for our military, our education system, and so forth,” Obama said. “If we stick to that deal, I will be supportive. … The sequester are additional cuts on top of that, and by law, until Congress takes the sequester away we have to abide by those additional cuts, but there’s no reason why we should have another crisis by shutting the government down in addition to these arbitrary spending cuts.”
"Thus, if Republicans try to rejigger the sequestration cuts such that they make the lower overall spending levels permanent, but rescind its indiscriminate cutting mechanism and thus remove the pressure on Congress to pass a balanced alternative, they’ll set off a government shutdown fight."
"But if Republicans can pass a government funding bill that adheres to spending levels agreed to and set in 2011, then the government will stay open and the fight over sequestration will continue indefinitely."
"However the fight over ongoing funding of the government shakes out, Obama said he hopes public pressure convinces Republicans to relent on revenues so that he and Congress can replace sequestration with an alternative deficit reduction plan."
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/03/obama-tips-his-hand-in-sequestration-fight.php?ref=fpa
Greg Sargent also argues correctly that the GOP will get the blame for the sequester.
"The message of the day from House Republicans is that the onset of the sequester is a big win for them. As the New York Times details in a big story, John Boehner is leaving town continuing to refuse to agree to any new revenues, and many Republicans are cheering. Rep. Steve Scalise, chairman of the Republican Study Committee, claims that the onset of cuts will be a “big victory” for “conservative principles.” Boehner aides appear to agree:
Republican aides say privately that Mr. Boehner sees no need to negotiate; Republicans are in a good place, they argue, because they want spending cuts and those cuts are happening.
"The curious thing about this is that just this week, the National Republican Congressional Committee — which is tasked with winning House races for Republicans — warned darklythat the sequester cuts risk devastating the economy. From the NRSC’s release:
As we rapidly approach Obama’s sequester, the president and his appointees are choosing to cut devastating segments of our economy, instead of the billions in documented waste. [...] It’s time for Obama to stop playing politics with his devastating sequester and finally put forth a responsible plan to avoid harming our economy.
"See the problem here? House Republicans are cheering the sequester as a good thing — or at least, as a better thing than compromising to avert it — even though the committee in charge of expanding their majority is on record acknowledging that they will damage the economy. It’s another indication of just how muddled the GOP’s messaging on the sequester has become."
"This gets at a broader point. Some conservatives who favor the sequester have argued that if it doesn’t result in any significant damage, it will undercut the Democratic case that spending cuts are bad for the economy. It’s true that this poses a danger for Dems. But it gives rise to a question: What if Republicans dig in and the sequestration grinds on for months — and it does result in job losses and more economic damage? Will Republicans acknowledge that cutting government spending does hurt the economy?"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/03/01/republicans-will-own-economic-damage-done-by-sequester/
The one worry is that the pain may not be felt over night. In 1995 the GOP got creamed on the government shutdown but that was obviously bigger. So you wonder if there will necessarily need to be lots of pain first before something is done.
Of course, a true government shutdown does wait on the horizon in late March. Overall, I do expect the Democrats and Obama to win this but the question is how long it takes. I would say I see an earlier resolution as a distinct possibility.
http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2013/02/democrats-are-confident-of-sequester.html
http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2013/02/why-gop-might-accept-new-revenue.html
Republicans are more and more like suicide bombers.... Oh, excuse me "homicide bombers."
ReplyDeleteThey could be swept into irrelevance in a few ways. If these maniacs are really dead set on destroying the country, we could:
1) We should ALL register as Republicans... or at least enough of us to push moderates in the their primaries.
2) Move. I mean move to red states. Think about it. CA and NY could, all by themselves, turn about 6 or 7 red states blue just with "extra" Dem voters. Won't do much for the house, but it'll pick up a few (say a minimum of 2 or three per state... that's somewhere between 12 and 21 switched house members)... plus a healthy load of senators! Plus we could really screw up their gerrymandering efforts!
I know these are not practical ideas... yet! But we are dealing with a dangerously ignorant and self-destructive crowd here. Whey let them ruin the nation? If they're intent on holding our heads under water until we drown, let's do that to them first.
... and you know what... the silent "moderate" faction of the GOP might WELCOME it! I'm assuming they still exist. They've got to be getting tired of these lunes. Having been a Repub, I can tell you I'd be getting pretty tired of these loons! I was a Repub during the Clinton years. Some of the stuff they pulled was an embarrassment. As a Repub I always like "reasonableness" and compromise! I never NEVER HATED Clinton. I thought he was OK overall. There were elements that did hate him.. and they were frankly scarey! Lunatics.. saying he was a murderer and all... all that crazy lunatic stuff. I was a Repub because I *thought* they were, over all, more fiscally responsible. Going back in time from where I'm at now... I'm not so sure. I was attracted to libertarianism, but never bought into it whole hog. I NEVER rejected science. I always thought reducing the number of nukes was good (thus I liked Bush 41 on that). I LIKED Nafta (at the time... not so sure anymore)... and Clinton was for that. There was a LOT to like about Clinton, even viewing him from the other side of the aisle. Of course I reveled in the Lewinsky thing, but impeachment? A total embarrassment. But now... the whole GOP has been overrun by its worst parts. It's truly despicable. Plus, if anything, I've moved to the left. Now I'd criticize Clinton for Glass-Steagall and Rubin and Summers, and what happened to Brooksley Borne and derivatives.
DeletePlus if I know Republicans... they'll be a LOT less likely to re-register as Dems. It's an identity thing for them. Also, if we move into red states... where do you suppose they'll go? They'll either stay put or flee in "safe" areas where like minded folks live... i.e. I think they'd be more likely to make red states redder than do the opposite of the blue movement... making the job easier.
ReplyDeleteCan you say Kansas Territory War rewrite? That was basically the pre-Civil War Kansas fight wasn't it? Tom Brown and all that? Slave state vs free state.
Best case scenario: a significant number "flee" to the safety of MS or AL, and then they secede. But this time we let them. It'd be worth it.
Yeah desperate times call for desperate measures LOL
ReplyDeleteHey Mike, here's another shocking headline:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/03/04/gop-accusation-confirmed-obama-out-to-break-it/?wp_login_redirect=0
Hahaha... to which I reply "Of course! The GOP has proven time and again they are not interested in governing. What else is the man supposed to do? 'Compromise' is not part of their vocabulary."
I read today how John Baenwhore, Baynor, however he spells it, comments on the "1 billion dollar tax hike that is the Affordab1e Care Act" and it simply makes me crazy he says something like that. This MF should stop being a hypocritical piece of shit and explain the Bush Medicare Prescription Drug Modernization Act which cost $550 Billion and has been generally derided as a "cash giveaway" to the Pharma industry. Then you consider the 1.3 trillion dollar tax giveaway from "The Bush" and the war in Iraq, conservatively costed out at 845 billion, but probably much higher, and you know this Ooompaloompa faced idiot does not have any morals or soul. I'm on the chopping block as a result of sequestration, but we would not be talking about that if these scumbag Republicans had not given away public funds before they found their Tea Party masters. At the end of the day the Republicans will never accept anything a Democrat proposes which is why we not to get rid of the lot of them and bring back the ghost of FDR to fix this mess!
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry you're on the choppoing block form the sequester. While some are criticizing Obama for naming specific cuts that will come right after the sequester as your story and others show, there will be immediate pain for some.
ReplyDeleteYes some sequester cuts are already being made http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2013/03/yes-some-sequester-cuts-are-already.html