http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/opinion/keller-obamas-fault.html?ref=opinion&_r=1&
Keller's complaint was that Obama failed to take the "high road" and he wasn't willing to do Simpson-Bowles. Yes, the high road. Obama tried that in his first term. Yet even in his first inauguration the Republicans went out at dinner planning to not support anything he suggests even if they liked an idea. Yet Obama is the one failing to take the high road?
As for Simpson-Bowles, when does it end with this? The reverence of this piece of legislation is out of all proportion. However, the one thing it asks for is considerably more tax revenue than the $600 billion we've obtained until now.
Jeffrey Sachs has a slightly different gloss on it but he too blames the President. He too thinks he has "failed to lead on entitlement reform." On the one hand he claims to support many things that most liberals including the President do:
"A true progressive agenda -- and it will come -- should do the following. First, it will make specific proposals for key areas of government (education, technology, infrastructure, training, etc.) based on the government paying its way rather than ramping up massive debts. That will require higher tax revenues as a share of GDP."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/how-obamas-politics-led-t_b_2804992.html
Hmmm. Paying its own way. Is there an MMTer in the house? He seems to think that we can't do anything until we "pay for it" he probably reasons that a "government is like a family." So Obama is to be faulted according to Sachs because he hasn't raised taxes on the middle class as well as the rich:
"Obama's budget approach -- far too beholden to tax and spending cuts -- has been in plain view since 2009. (I worried about it from the start. See my Time magazine piece in vof that year for more detail.) To stake out his low-tax position, he has repeatedly proposed budgets that actually slash the share of discretionary spending in national income. People have rarely recognized the contradiction between Obama's progressive speeches and his regressive budgets."
I wonder if Sachs knows this is a recession. Why should we be trying to balance the budget now? In a recession a deficit is not a necessary evil but a necessary virtue. I also question that we have to raise taxes so much on the non-rich-though it is an interesting argument. In many European countries the tradeoff is a highly regressive tax code that taxes the middle class at much higher levels in exchange for a much more generous social safety net.
Yet the structural deficit-the part of the deficit not attributable to the recession is manageable. It's attributable to Bush's tax cuts and the off budget wars that have winded down.
Now we have Dean Baker going after the President too. At least he differentiates his own criticism from so much of the rank hackery that has been used to criticize the President. Baker's reasoning is that Obama has failed to educate the American people and the media.
"I'm not blaming Obama for the reasons that Bob Woodward came up with in his fantasyland. I am blaming President Obama and his administration for trying to be cute and clever rather than telling the public the truth about the economic crisis. The result is that the vast majority of the public, and virtually all of the reporters and pundits who deal with budget issues, does not have any clue about where the deficit came from and why it is a virtue rather than a problem."
"The basic story is incredibly simple. Demand from the private sector collapsed when the housing bubble burst. We lost $600 billion in annual demand due to residential construction falling through the floor. We will not return to normal levels of construction until the vacancy rates return to normal levels. Vacancy rates are still near post-bubble record highs."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-baker/the-sequester-is-presiden_b_2808247.htmlSee, here I think Baker is just expecting too much. I mean the President has enough responsibilities don't you think? He has to wholly educate the public as well? Is it simple? In a way yes. Still that doesn't mean that it will be simple for large parts of the public. I think that Baker is overly optimistic on how much the President can educate people in a few soundbites. The public it's true is kind of blinkered on this. They kind of like the idea of spending cuts but wholly oppose any particular cut.
So they are basically on the President's side. However, educating them is easier said than done.
He does make the point that maybe if Obama had back in 2010 talked stimulus he might have by now turned the country around to the idea.
"As a result we are stuck with an economy that is mired well below full employment. President Obama's top economic advisers from his first term all claim that they understood this point. But they said that they could not get a bigger stimulus package through Congress."
"That assessment may well be true, but the real issue is what President Obama did after the stimulus package passed. He could have told the country the truth. He could have said what all his advisers claim they told him at the time: the stimulus was not large enough and we would likely need more. He could have used his presidency to explain basic economics to the public and the reporters who cover budget issues."
"He could have told them that we need large deficits to fill the hole in demand that was created by the collapse in private sector spending. He could have shown them colorful graphs that beat them over the head with the point that there was very little room for investment to expand even under the best of circumstances."
"He could have also explained that consumers would not go back to their bubble levels of consumption since the wealth that had supported this consumption had disappeared with the collapse of the bubble. The public would likely understand this point since most homeowners had themselves lost large amounts of equity and understood that they were much poorer as a result of the collapse of the bubble."
"In this context the only choice in the near term is between larger budget deficits and higher unemployment. The people who clamored for cuts in government spending and lower deficits are in fact clamoring to throw people out of work and slow growth."
"We will never know if President Obama could have garnered support for more stimulus and larger deficits if he had used his office to pound home basic principles of economics to the public and the media. But we do know the route he chose failed."
"He apparently thought the best route to get more stimulus was to convince the deficit hawks that he was one of them. He proudly announced the need to pivot to deficit reduction after the passage of the stimulus and then appointed two deficit hawks, Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson, to head a deficit commission."
Hindsight is 20-20. Could he have gone that route? I'm not so sure. By 2010 with the passage of ObamaCare he had spent most of his political capital. Once the election "shellacking" that year it certainly was. At that point the GOP did have something of a mandate for their agenda-they overplayed their hand massively, of course.
At this point then, who can really say "what if?" Hopefully he has a winning strategy for now. It's a little unclear exactly what the endgame on this sequester is now as Jonathon Bernstein notes.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/03/04/lots-of-questions-linger-about-budget-wars/
Still, when assessing the President's performance you have to factor in that we haven't had a double dip as they have in Britain, the Eurozone, and Greece. He has a lot to do with that.
Hi Mike. I can sympathize with your points here. One thing though, you write:
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This is where at least two of the MMTers will come down on Obama a lot harder than Dean Baker:
William K. Black and Michael Hudson. Hudson in particular has been scathing in his criticism of Obama for some time. He's also scathing of the "socialist" parties in Europe, Iceland, and New Zealand: not because they have been "too socialist," but because he believes they are the ones who've ultimately implemented the worst parts of neo-liberalism thus boosting the interests of the "rentiers" over the rest of us.
He pretty much rips Obama apart on the same grounds: in his view Obama has been using his credibility as a centrist to do what the Republicans couldn't.
Bill Black of course has been ripping Obama for not coming down hard on the banks and stiffening regulations.
I think both perhaps are a bit strong in their criticism... especially Hudson.
I think when it comes down to it, perhaps Obama is somewhat misinformed by his advisers regarding high debts and deficits.
I feel for the guy. But I place the blame squarely on Republicans. Obama may not be shooting for the optimal policy ... but Republicans are actively doing their utmost the create the worst possible outcome.
It's truly unfortunate that the casual observer might come away with some sort of squishy impression that perhaps this really is about equally the fault of both sides.
I find the press infuriating in this regard. You've written about this subject of false equivalence many times.
I know many of the MMTers are very critical of the President-often too critical in my view. I was appealing to MMTers there not to defend Obama but against Sach's fallacy that we need to balance the budget now before we can make any social investments.
DeleteTom you wrote:
Delete"I feel for the guy. But I place the blame squarely on Republicans. Obama may not be shooting for the optimal policy ... but Republicans are actively doing their utmost the create the worst possible outcome."
I think you about nail it here. From what I understand Obama initially wanted to send out checks to all of us rahter than do TARP for the banks-Steve Keen tells us they did send out an average check of $960 to all taxpayers in Australia-however his advisers talked him into the idea that the TARP was more vital.
You put it well though: it makes no sense to kill Obama for having his heart in the right place and doing the best he can but maybe not shooting for the optimal policy all the time partly because he listens to experts who are supposed to know better, while giving GOP obstruction and bad faith a total pass.
DeleteYou write:
ReplyDelete"Still, when assessing the President's performance you have to factor in that we haven't had a double dip as they have in Britain, the Eurozone, and Greece. He has a lot to do with that."
The Republicans are trying to correct this 'problem.'
It is beyond disheartening to see a president who was reelected, on a very clear message distinction(during the election) from his opponent, just continue to take on water since the election. Clearly most people liked the democrats approach but our press and obstructionist opposition party continue to etch away, little by little, any advantage they have..... but Obama does have his own neoliberal tendencies to blame for much of this. In his heart Obama is a moderate republican who really does think privatizing SS (at least a portion) will be "better" for the working man. He's not a liberal at all. He probably thinks unions are unnecessary, really could care less who gets married and thinks the war on drugs is expensive but doesnt like the idea of legalizing. He really does think our govt is like a household and could become like Greece if we are not careful.
ReplyDeleteSo while I want Obamas demeanor and gravitas to anything our republican foes can offer, he's mostly just a nicer/sane version of them. Nice/sane is important but he is no Truman or Roosevelt, willing to stand up to the folks who really dont give a crap about anything but their own checkbook. Count me in the disappointed camp
There is no passion in the guy to stand up to the excesses of Wall St
I don't entirely agree with you Greg. I think he is a liberal and he has had some real achievements-ObamaCare is the biggest. Yes I know it didn't go far enough for a lot of people but it's jsut the start. FDR's SS covered far less people when it started than ObamaCare will already cover. It's a work in progress not the finished product.
DeleteI agree he may not entierly get fiscal matters though no one in the establishment really does. He gets a lot of it. He also got some bad advice-again he initially thought the TARP was a wasteful bailout and that it was preferrable to give the money to regular people but he got talked out of it by people he assumed knew better.
Of course Mike you must remember that Obamacare is a republican/conservative idea form the mid 90s. Not that that makes it wrong but it is simply requiring everyone to participate in the private health insurance scam market. It is far from a liberal idea, in spite of what the crazies are calling it now.
DeleteLook, I realize that our leaders will almost never be as liberal as me. They are all form the upper crust and are predominantly conservative. Im using conservative in the way that they dont want to change the system much because they have benefitted from it. The left are those that generally look to upset the apple cart some, not just for the sake of upseting the apple cart, that would be the Tea Party, but because they dont want institutionalized unfairness.
I agree that Obamacare is an unfinished product AND that likely over time we will move more towards a single payer.
Im still disappointed that he hasnt used the crisis of four years ago to make significant changes to Wall St power. He would have the peoples support on that if he framed the arguments like Bill Black would. His hearts not in it. He doesnt want to take on Wall St
Check out the video on this page (It's about wealth distribution in the US). I think we've all seen something similar recently, but this video does a nice job of presenting the information. Plus the pensive piano chords in the background help make you feel nauseous... or enraged. I felt both:
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Enjoy!
Actually, as I commented on Cullen's blog, when I see this kind of thing, and think how people are being misled to vote against their own interests... it makes me think that a big part of keeping this scam going is making sure the finger of blame is pointed AWAY from who the voters are benefiting with their votes. That's a crucial part of the game. I believe that political instability will eventually result if this trend continues. Unfortunately, if my general reading of the recent mood and character of the nation are correct, I'm going to guess that political instability means we'd probably turn to fascism.
Tom
ReplyDeleteGreat link! I posted it to my FB page. A real eye opener. It is truly amazing how so many people continue to vote against their own self interest
Yeah the way I see it is something like this:
ReplyDelete1. Plutocrats spend what's necessary to convince a block of the electorate to vote against their own interests and for the interests of the plutocrats.
2. Block of electorate is convinced and votes accordingly.
3. Things go poorly for the electorate, as could have easily been predicted.
4. Plutocrats find scape goats to blame the problems on: "minorities," "lib-tards," "pointy headed Keynesians," "lazy people," "Government," "Government workers (teachers, firemen, ATF agents, etc." [BTW, the cynicism of this step on the part of the plutocrats is REALLY nauseating to me].
5. Electorate buys into the plutocrats dodge and blames the scapegoats so identified, thus become even more radicalized and infuriated.
6. Rinse and repeat!
Eventually this seems like it might break!... but it's hard to imagine a "good" break for most of the radicalized electorate targeted by the plutocrats. What's more likely? That this block of the electorate starts to realize they've been conned by the plutocrats, or they start to think that radical steps need to be taken against the scapegoats who their convinced are further ruining their lives? That's why I'm WAY more afraid of fascism taking hold in this country than communism. I just think it's way more likely.
We are currently 80% fascist already. Fascisim, as I understand it, is strong private interests interwoven tightly with the govt, which acts as the police state to protect their interests. Look at Wisconsin and Michigan. Those right wing governos are going to start selling off public assets at fire sale prices before too long and the Koch Bros will be the owners and defacto governors. The Michigan'Wisconsin police will essentially be private body guards for the Koch Bros interests..... you watch. Its coming.
DeleteWell that's a good definition, but it misses an important component that I find most upsetting: the populism of it! Fascists portray themselves as strong, and as no-nonsense protectors of traditional values. The other side is weak, lazy, filthy, degenerate, foreign ("un-American"), etc. That's what gets the torchlight rallies, and book burnings going! That's the part that's really scary to me! If it weren't for their popular support, fascist plots (as you've defined them) would eventually fall apart when popular progressive heroes ride into town to clean up the mess (trust busting, union friendly, etc.). Based on the populist component to fascism, I don't think we're even 50% fascist at this point (see the above video I link to, wherein even Republicans have a vastly different idea about what the distribution of wealth SHOULD be, and where it is now, in contrast to where it ACTUALLY is now!).
DeleteI don't see fascism as unavoidable... I just see it as more likely than radical left-ism should things start to unravel... at least in this country.
I hope you are right Tom. I see most of the guys I work with as totally supportive of the fascist ideas of Walker and Snyder. See I dont think fascism will be a federal thing, it will be a "states rights" thing. As the fed gets shrunk in its ability to regulate, each state will do as they please. Worker rights laws are already on life support in many places and moving that way in the rest. People have forgotten the battles that were fought and won 70 years ago. Ignorance of history might lead to a cold slap in the face for many of our brethren. Im not seeing a bright horizon, it will get much worse before we see people wake up to reality and who they blame will determine our course as you note.
DeleteWe are not a center right nation we are just governed by center right to hard right lawmakers. Todays liberals are Eisenhower republicans but we need a Truman or Eisenhower.
Actually, on Step 1., I guess I should really say:
ReplyDelete1. Plutocrats buy political influence in Washington, and also spend to provide cover for the politicians they have in their pocket by convincing the politicians' constituents to vote against their own interests.
I'm with you Tom in that I find Right wing populism the unpleasant thing around. I also think that you're right about being under 50% "facist."
ReplyDeleteI'm a little more optimistic than many are. I do agree with Greg that the states are where the real problems will be in the future: partly because we're likley to see more liberal rule at the federal level.
Well, the state issue is compelling. Just look at the recent push in several states to attempt to enact laws directing state law enforcement officials to arrest federal agents attempting to enforce federal statutes. Unfortunately, Bob Dylan was right: "The Times They Are A Changin'" Hey, we can even kill Americans on American soil using drones, right?
ReplyDeleteIf our president acted in the manner that many state governors are there would be blood in the streets. The fact that these conservatives have no problem with governors acting like dictators is telling. Snyder appointed someone to take over Detroit and supersede the person duly elected by the people. If this doesnt move the people to do something what will it take? That is a direct assault on democracy.
DeleteSo while I cant quantitate the degree of fascism on the whole I think its safe to say that every state with a republican governor and legislature will consider and probably already has considered actions like those taken by Snyder, in the name of emergency. And what percentage of people in Michigan are fighting that development? Even many on the left are taking it in stride.