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Wednesday, November 6, 2013

Mark Sadowski: Increasing the Monetary Base 'Granger Causes' all Kinds of Things

     This is the usual script. Sumner is caught out there in some logical inconsistency and then here comes the Market Monetarist house wonk to come up with some dense stats and charts that show that-what do you know. Sumner is right about everything after all. Confirmation bias anyone?

     In Sumner's attempt to find the 'Achilles Hill' of MMT he supposed that this is it: they are unable to explain how doubling the MB will lead to a doubling of NGDP and a 'near doubling' of the price level. However, to make this claim plausible he says it only applies to a normal economy-ie, one not in the middle of a deep recession-where there are IRR being paid. 

     Sumner responded with a flourish that anyone that would accuse him of claiming that dropping the interest rate from 5% to 0% would double NGDP and almost double the price level is all kinds of bad things:

      "My rebuttal is that whoever wrote that nonsense is a liar, a moron, and a jerk, all wrapped up in one. Life’s too short to respond to someone who claims I asserted that lowering interest rates to zero would cause NGDP to double. (It’s got several names attached, so I don’t know who wrote it.)"

      http://diaryofarepublicanhater.blogspot.com/2013/11/randall-wray-speaks-of-sumner-on-mmts.html

      Here is Randy Wray's response to that:

      "I provided all the relevant quotes from Sumner. He agrees that doubling Base will drive overnight rate to zero. Then NGDP doubles and prices double. Very clear. He might want to argue that doubling Base would double NGDP EVEN IF RATES DO NOT FALL. Fine. That just puts him even farther from every modern school of thought, out farther into a never never land of magic, with lending and spending magically increasing WITHOUT INTEREST RATES FALLING."

       http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2013/11/scott-sumner-find-mmts-achilles-heel.html#comment-523659

      So here we go again. Sumner ends up looking a little shrill and maybe just a little silly. Not to worry, in comes Mark Sadowski, the Market Monetarist Super Wonk. Turns out he's done studies that shows just how much increasing the MB does. 
   
     "Recently I’ve noticed New Economic Perspectives blog author Dan Kervick repeating some version of the following question in response to any claim about the monetary base:

     “What empirical evidence exists for that claim?”

     "I’ve done Granger causality tests on the monetary base over the period since December 2008 and find that the monetary base Granger causes the real broad dollar index, the S&P 500, the DJIA, commercial bank deposits, commercial bank loans and leases, the PCEPI, and 5-year inflation expectations as measured by TIPS."

    "The empirical fact that QE has an effect on the exchange rate of the dollar means that the Exchange Rate Channel is effective. (It’s always been curious to me how people can believe in the liquidity trap when Bulgaria, Denmark and Switzerland all successfully control their exchange rates despite being at the zero lower bound.) Does MMT address how exchange rates are set? (I honestly don’t know.)"

    "The empirical fact that QE has an effect on stock prices (something which is obvious to nearly everybody) means that the Tobin Q Channel, the Wealth Effects Channel, the Balance Sheet Channel and the Household Liquidity Effects Channel are all effective. The usual MMT response is that “the markets are irrational”.

     "The empirical fact that QE has an effect on inflation expectations and the PCEPI means that the Unexpected Price Level Channel is effective. The effect on the PCEPI is not easy to observe, but most people acknowledge that QE has an effect on inflation expectations. Again the usual MMT response is that “the markets are irrational”.

      "The empirical fact that QE has an effect on commercial bank deposits, and loans and leases, means that the Bank Lending Channel is effective. This is particularly significant in debunking MMT (as well as Accomodative Endogeneity) since they claim that this is completely impossible."

      "But here’s by far biggest problem with Dan Kervick’s question."

    "I’ve read some of the research published by MMT economists such as Randy Wray (e.g. “System Dynamics of Interest Rate Effects on Aggregate Demand”). Mostly it consists of constructing stock-flow models using parameters derived from “neoclassical” economics estimates. I’ve never seen a single empirical MMT research paper, or even any evidence that they have any knowledge of econometrics at all.
What empirical evidence exists for MMT? None."


     Dan Kervick seemed rather impressed by this awesome display of wonkishness:

     "Mark, could you send me a link to any empirical analyses of the kind you mention demonstrating causal relationships between either changes in the size of the monetary base or expectations of changes in the size of the monetary base, on the one hand, and other variables such as RGDP, NGDP, inflation, or inflation expectations. I really am interested in examining evidence of this kind. Most of what I read on all sides in the blogosphere doesn’t examine this kind of evidence, but instead argues a priori from conjecture and hypothesized first principles."

     Sadowski obliged him. My concern though is that some may get overawed in reading Sadowski because of all the factoids and charts he comes up with that seem to show 'You see, Sumner was right all along.' 

      For example how many people out there actually know what it means to say that one thing 'Granger causes' another thing? Does Dan? I ask this because I don't know.He's a smart guy and may well do so, but surely many reading this don't. It doesn't necessarily mean real causation. As Granger himself said upon winning the Nobel Prize in 2003 GC has been used in manner of illegitimate ways as well. 

      As for Sadowski's list, he doesn't know too much about MMT as they are always going on and on about how QE raises stock prices, commodities, etc. and tend to disproportionately benefit the wealthy over the struggling or the poor. 

       

     

11 comments:

  1. "they are always going on and on about how QE raises stock prices, commodities, etc. and tend to disproportionately benefit the wealthy over the struggling or the poor"

    I don't think that's the opinion of the MMT economists like Wray, Mosler, etc. However some people who comment on MMT blogs hold that opinion. But I don't think it's part of MM Theory. Probably best to ask Wray whether he thinks QE "raises stock prices and commodities".

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  2. Y the argument was that Sadowski had all this reasearch that showed that QE 'Granger caused' things like the market to go way up.

    My point is that the MMTers-at least some of them-aren't surprised that the market went up.

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  3. Hey Mike!

    Sorry that it's been so long. School has overtaken my life, including blogging, but I still manage to read posts from time to time (so keep up the good work). Anyways, I wanted to let you know that I'm currently working on a paper that uses Granger-causality tests to demonstrate the relationship between commercial bank loans, the monetary base, monetary aggregates, NGDP and the Fed funds rate from 1971-2008. A draft version should be available soon but the general conclusions strongly support the endogenous money hypothesis.

    Just wanted to point out that someone else is working on these topics.

    Best,
    Woj

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  4. TK Josh. It's a relief. I often feel like I'm a voice in the wilderness. The MM train with Sumner and Sadowski seems to have a lot more passengers. Looking forward to it. Maybe you could do me a solid and explain a little bit about what Granger Causality really is-I get that it's an important thing in econometrics but a little primer for me-and the audience would help.

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  5. Sadowski's stuff is of course nonsense. If you have a 100% jump in the monetary base in late 2008 then any test will show that it "Granger caused" anything that came afterwards. So you can say: "the monetary base Granger causes the iPad". He is either mathematically illiterate or thinks the Sumner readers are stupid (not a bad assumption). Of course, such an abrupt event is not a good moment to check causality of unique events that came afterwards. Funny enough, if he dared to look at inflation, he would conclude that the monetary base expansion Granger causes... deflation, it happened in Sweden and Japan:

    http://www.redrockwealth.com/economics/does-monetary-expansion-stoke-inflation/
    http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/money-banking/chart-of-the-week-japanese-monetary-base-and-inflation

    People looked at Granger causation from the base, there is none:

    www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/feds/2010/201041/201041pap.pdf‎

    http://www.mnb.hu/Root/Dokumentumtar/ENMNB/Kiadvanyok/mnben_mnbszemle/mnben_szemle_cikkei/bulletin_2007june_komaromi.pdf

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    1. PeterP.:
      “Sadowski's stuff is of course nonsense. If you have a 100% jump in the monetary base in late 2008 then any test will show that it "Granger caused" anything that came afterwards. So you can say: "the monetary base Granger causes the iPad". He is either mathematically illiterate or thinks the Sumner readers are stupid (not a bad assumption). Of course, such an abrupt event is not a good moment to check causality of unique events that came afterwards.”

      A time series X is said to Granger-cause Y if it can be shown that lagged values of X collectively provide statistically significant information about future values of Y. There is simply no coherent way that values of X immediately preceding the range of observations could cause the lagged values of X in the range of observations to spuriously provide statistical information about future values of Y.

      There are lots of things that the US monetary base does not Granger cause over the period since 2008, many of them things that people claim that QE has had an effect on. In particular the monetary base does not Granger cause the price of gold, copper, crude oil, or emerging market equities. To claim that simply because there was a near doubling in the monetary base between August and December 2008 that this would lead to spuriously positive Granger causality results with anything that occurred after it is quite frankly silly.

      PeterP.
      “Funny enough, if he dared to look at inflation, he would conclude that the monetary base expansion Granger causes... deflation, it happened in Sweden and Japan:

      http://www.redrockwealth.com/economics/does-monetary-expansion-stoke-inflation/

      http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/money-banking/chart-of-the-week-japanese-monetary-base-and-inflation

      The example of Sweden during the 1990s is not very relevant for a couple of reasons. First of all it wasn’t QE in the conventional sense of the central bank making large scale asset purchases. It is better described as Credit Easing (CE). The Swedish Central Bank lent heavily to the financial sector due to the 1990s Swedish financial crisis. Secondly the Riksbank repo rate was extremely high throughout the period of monetary base expansion (1994-1997) reaching 8.9% from May 1995 through October 1996:

      http://www.riksbank.se/en/Interest-and-exchange-rates/Repo-rate-table/

      This was done mainly in order to defend the krona’s exchange rate. Sweden in 1994-1997 is simply not an example of a central bank doing QE because it was at the zero lower bound in interest rates.

      In the case of Japan there is in fact published research showing that reserve balances Granger caused core CPI during their original QE from 2001-2006. See Table 2 on Page 29:

      http://www2.econ.osaka-u.ac.jp/library/global/dp/0708.pdf

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    2. PeterP.
      “People looked at Granger causation from the base, there is none:”

      http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/feds/2010/201041/201041pap.pdf

      http://www.mnb.hu/Root/Dokumentumtar/ENMNB/Kiadvanyok/mnben_mnbszemle/mnben_szemle_cikkei/bulletin_2007june_komaromi.pdf

      Carpenter et al ‘s Granger causality results can be found in Table 1. What they actually show is that reserve balances Granger causes required reserves, reservable deposits and large time deposits, but not loans and managed liabilities. The fact that reserve balances didn’t Granger cause loans isn’t surprising since the time period in question is 1990-2007, which completely precedes the US QE.

      Komaromi’s results can be found in Table 1 on Page 36. What they show is that the monetary base does not Granger cause M1 or M2, but M1 and M2 Granger cause the monetary base. But again, the period in question is 1998-2007 which completely precedes the US QE.

      It’s not surprising that the monetary base does not Granger cause broad money during a period of time when the main policy instrument is the fed funds rate, something which I implicitly referred to in several comments in the Money Illusion comment thread to which these comments are replying.

      http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=24551

      Now, let me comment on the econometrics employed in these two Granger causality results.

      Carpenter et al. did their test on logged and first differenced data, which evidently was done to address the issue of nonstationarity. In the words of the master econometrician Dave Giles, “this is wrong”. Granger causality tests should be done on level data otherwise the results will be inconsistent. This is in fact addressed by James Hamilton in “Time Series” on pages 651-3. I’m very surprised that nobody has commented on the fact that Carpenter et al’s Granger causality results are inconsistent before now.

      Komaromi did his test on level data and first-differenced data. He reports the results for the level data and states that the results for the first-differenced data are similar. But there is no evidence that the issue of nonstationarity was dealt with in the published results for the level data. Thus it is very likely that they are also statistically biased.

      All of my Granger causality tests have been done in levels using a VAR technique developed by Toda and Yamamato that addresses the issue of nonstationarity by added additional lagged terms as exogenous variables. Thus my results are not subject to the same kinds of econometric problems that the Granger causality results contained in Carpenter et al and Komaromi almost certainly have.

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    3. Mark,

      Have you run the Toda and Yamamato technique using Stata at any point? If so, would you be able to outline the steps as this information does not currently appear on Google searches?

      My initial understanding is that the VAR should be run using the levels of variables with an extra lag of each variable included exogenously (assuming at least one of the variables is I(1)). Then a typical Granger causality Wald test will provide more accurate results. Is this correct?

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    4. No, I'm using Eviews. Your discription is correct. If at least one of the variables is I(2) then you run the VAR in levels with two extra lags of each variable included exogenously etc.

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    5. Here is a nice and simple description of the test:
      http://davegiles.blogspot.com/2011/04/testing-for-granger-causality.html

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