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Wednesday, November 25, 2015

Bruce Barlett on Missing the Point of Trump

We hear a lot of breastbeating out of the media the last few days about What to do about Trump?! Many pundits seem to think that simply calling him a liar is a silver bullet. Lawrence O'Donnell seems to think by calling him a liar again and again will magically destroy Trump

But Bruce Bartlett gets the crux of the matter.

"It makes as much sense to complain that Trump is a liar as it does to say that stand-up comedians aren't always truthful. Misses the point"

https://twitter.com/BruceBartlett

I mean the idea of putting Trump's latest comments about Muslims cheering 9/11 to a Glenn Kessler fact check kind of shows the fallacy. I mean who actually needs to fact check this to know that this is a whopper? 

Though it seems to be based on some Urban Legends that have been around for years. That's a key. Many in the GOP base already believe this. So Trump is just affirming their beliefs here. This tends to be ignored. I mean you don't have to go through a fact check to convince me or most people who aren't in the base that this is a tall tale. But will this turn the base against him?

Josh Marshall makes some points in a post today. Because so much of it is spot on, I quote extensively from him.

"At TPM our coverage of politics has always tended toward the bizarre and outrageous in American politics, what we in-house sometimes call 'The Crazy'. Some of this is just a product of my interests and obsessions about contemporary politics and American history, ones that shaped how I built the organization and people I hired who in term helped define what we do. But this is only part of it and not that part which I think is important. We cover the weird, dark, outrageous and surreal in our politics because these things are much more important than most people - especially most political observers - care to admit. I thought of this when I read this high-minded and starchy editorial in yesterday's Washington Post, the upshot of which is that while they've tried to do the right thing and ignore Donald Trump's clown car campaign, they simply can't do it anymore. The time has now come to stand up to Trump's bullying! And, the Post insists, Republicans must now do so too."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/that-s-why-we-do-this

Right away, for me, that's just an absurd premise. This makes the mistake of believing that Trumpism is about one man rather than the entire party. That the entire party is Trumpist, has been and getting worse for years, is the illusion here. It goes hand in hand with the Beltway press' obsession with being evenhanded and drawing a false equivalence between anti Muslim rhetoric and Obama allegedly being 'defensive' at a press conference.

Marshall quotes extensively from the 'high-minded and starchy editorial.'

"THE GROWING ugliness of Donald Trump’s campaign poses a challenge to us all. We have seen the likes of him before, in the United States and elsewhere: narcissistic bullies who rise to prominence by spreading lies, appealing to fears and stoking hatred. Such people are dangerous."

"Like many Americans, our first inclination was to ignore Mr. Trump. The Huffington Post, you may recall, announced that it would feature him in its Entertainment section, not in its coverage of politics. He was a buffoon, a disseminator of ludicrous rumors about President Obama’s birthplace. He lacked the qualifications, experience or knowledge to be president. He was running to promote his brand. We wouldn’t give him the satisfaction."

"Our assessment of Mr. Trump was correct, but the tactical response was not. His popular support has hung steady at about 30 percent of Republicans, and his candidacy has tugged the debate toward divisiveness as his bigotry has drawn cheers and many of his rivals have strove to mimic him."

So WaPo is actually taking upon itself the job of bringing down Trump's poll numbers? Again, they insist on making Trump a purely individual phenomenon rather than a party phenomenon.

And if the WaPo-and the NY Times- plans to go after Trump, have they considered that this will only increase his credibility with his base? But who are the WaPo to set themselves up as kingmakers in an election anyway?

Back to Marshall who makes some more great points:

"This encapsulates pretty much entirely the myopia of so much American political journalism. Sometimes readers will write in to say 'Why are you writing so much about Trump?' or Steve King or Michele Bachmann or Death Panels or whatever the latest thing is. 'You've just given them oxygen. If people ignored them, they'd go away.'

"Now this doesn't make a lot of sense at one level since TPM's a pretty small outfit. But it doesn't make sense on a larger level either. A lot of people, a lot of liberals, or what we might better call people of cosmopolitan political sensibilities, live in this fantasy world wherein what they ignore either doesn't exist or will be shooed out of existence by their refusal to pay attention to it. This is, needless to say, not true. That's why many Democrats are continually surprised that things they think are straightforward or commonsensical turn out to be deeply controversial or even politically impossible. Or conversely, why so many preposterous claims are widely accepted as either possible or true. Why do so many people think the President is a Muslim? Why do so many people believe there are Obama death panels? Why do so many Republican voters believe that Democrats only win elections because white Democrats organize legions of black voters who vote multiple times in our densely populated inner cities. Pick whatever ludicrous claim or idea that turns out to have remarkable traction in the US political dialog and if you're surprised about it it's probably because there's a whole underside of American politics you're simply not tuned into or think it's beneath you to take note of. And if you're part of the elite tier of American journalism you are almost certainly part of this equation - albeit more as a matter or writing much of this out of the story than not knowing it exists."

You know it's worth bearing in mind that 40% of Americans-not the GOP among whom the number is much higher-agree with Trump about deporting 11 million people. Ie this idea doesn't sound ludicrous to them. And you get people like Kasich who say it's ludicrous while they were themselves running on the same thing in 2010.

But I agree with Marshall. Nothing gets on my nerves more than this mentality that we should 'Just ignore the unpleasant things and they will go away.'

Now here, he says something else that occurred to me when Huff Po has their grand relegation of Trump to the entertainment section.

"Our main reaction when Huffpo made its grand and grandiose pronouncement about relegating Trump to the Entertainment pages (note that the politics reporters kept covering him) was not only that this was quite a thing to say for a publication that put accidentally exposed nipples at the center of the national news conversation. But really, it's hard for me to imagine a wilder sort of journalistic arrogance. The job of political journalism isn't to police what's acceptable or legitimate in our politics but first always to capture what is happening. This isn't to say we can't editorialize and make judgments. As a whole, journalists should probably be doing more of both. But what's actually happening always comes first. The idea that we can or should simply write things or people out of the story amounts to a comical level of hubris."

Wow. I can't overstate how much I agree with this.

Now he says something else that is on the nose. Trump didn't come out of nowhere. He's not the result of some Immaculate Conception. He is a logical outcome of where GOP politics have been going for years.

"Trump hardly comes out of nowhere. There's really little about his ascent that is surprising at all if you've been paying attention to the direction of our politics in the last decade. I don't mean that I would have predicted he'd do this well. I didn't. What I mean is that the nature of his success, the effectiveness of his strategy and message, is entirely predictable. What Trump has done is taken the half-subterranean Republican script of the Obama years, turbocharge it and add a level of media savvy that Trump gained not only from The Apprentice but more from decades navigating and exploiting New York City's rich tabloid news culture. He's just taken the existing script, wrung out the wrinkles and internal contradictions and given it its full voice. There's very, very little that is new or unfamiliar in Trump's campaign beside taking the world of talk radio, conservative media and base Republican hijinx and pushing them to the center of the national political conversation. If you're surprised, it's because you haven't been paying attention."

Yes. The media can't admit this because it would explode their evenhandness. They want to hold the Republican party totally innocent of Trump even though none of the GOP candidates have really repudiated him on substance.



5 comments:

  1. Mike, why do you care if the Beltway press is attacking Donald? You want him to be the nominee, not the president, right? Republicans get their news from cynical right wing radio charlatans, fundamentalist con men preachers, conspiracy theorists, internet rumors and BS pass-around emails full of outrageous lies... they don't pay any attention to the Beltway media.

    I'm happy the Beltway media is attacking Trump. It might help him secure the GOP nomination... and at the same time help increase the Democrat's chances (whoever it eventually is).

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  2. My point is the Beltway is trying to prevent him from getting the nomination. Look at the WaPo quote from Josh Marshall.

    "Like many Americans, our first inclination was to ignore Mr. Trump. The Huffington Post, you may recall, announced that it would feature him in its Entertainment section, not in its coverage of politics. He was a buffoon, a disseminator of ludicrous rumors about President Obama’s birthplace. He lacked the qualifications, experience or knowledge to be president. He was running to promote his brand. We wouldn’t give him the satisfaction."

    "Our assessment of Mr. Trump was correct, but the tactical response was not. His popular support has hung steady at about 30 percent of Republicans, and his candidacy has tugged the debate toward divisiveness as his bigotry has drawn cheers and many of his rivals have strove to mimic him."

    The Beltway is trying to take him out. And they're also trying to hold onto their even handed approach to the parties by pretending that the GOP is fine, it's just Trump.

    As for the Democrats I already think they have a great chance of beating Trump.

    Don't worry about that-if Trump does win the nomination-and remember I have said I don't know that he will-then I will go after Trump with all this stuff.

    My strategy for now is to hold off on attacking him all that much until if//when he wins.

    Again, I Just want someone to win other than Rubio-I presume Jeb is done.

    I think you are giving Trump much too high a shot of beating the Democrats. Nate Silver is right, I think. He argues that if it's someone like Rubio/Jeb, etc. then it's a 50-50 tossup.

    Now in that case, arguably a small economic slump could maybe tip it to the GOP. But if it's Trump/Carson/Cruz, HRC''s chances are more like 75% so that you'd have to have a huge depression-maybe deeper than 2008 or even the Great Depression for him to win.

    I agree that the Beltway's attempts to bring down Trump won't work but that's what they're trying to do. They should stop trying to be kingmakers.


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  3. If you read Josh's piece he's on the same page as me.

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  4. Even your own history proves my point. You were fulled by W's presentation-whereas you would never go for Trump. That's my point.

    Trump is so blatant that general election voters will never vote for him. On the other hand, Rubio could trick them. It wouldn't benefit the Latino immigrants in the least that he has a nice little personal biography and disguises his true positions.

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  5. The problem for me is not any individual candidate, it's the Republican party. Full stop

    The media should stop being pious and do their job for once as Josh says.

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